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Old 09-06-2013   #1
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or baseball pitcher or baseball fielder. I just wanted to share this info on a "phenom" who as a red shirt freshman could impact Texans and NFL in 2014. He turns 19 December 2013 and could choose to remain in school but his first start was pretty good. Need a lot more evaluating but this college season could be his last so "heads up" as they say. Lengthy bio article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...025705602.html
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He is not eligible until 2015. If I remember the rules correctly, one has to be 3 years removed from high school.
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He is not eligible until 2015. If I remember the rules correctly, one has to be 3 years removed from high school.
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Yeah thought of that as I posted then did not know how to delete. I'll still watch him
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Yeah thought of that as I posted then did not know how to delete. I'll still watch him
It happens. He is certainly one to watch. I did not catch much of the game Monday night, but I made a mental note.
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He was touted as a great player coming out of high school and had a great game against Pitt. I'm trying to hold back a little because one game means nothing. He's got everything you would want out of a QB. He was doing a tad bit of **** talking in his first game, but our LT grabbed him after a TD and told him to calm down. He seems like a good guy too; he's a goofy guy if you follow his twitter.

We'll see how he performs against stiffer competition. We've got two seasons at least until we need to evaluate him as a prospect.

This guy has a deadly arm from the outfield. I watched FSU baseball this year and people rarely ever tried to take extra bases on him. He had a throw against Clemson to 3rd base where he got the runner and the Clemson kid got up like "what the hell???"
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He was touted as a great player coming out of high school and had a great game against Pitt. I'm trying to hold back a little because one game means nothing. He's got everything you would want out of a QB. He was doing a tad bit of **** talking in his first game, but our LT grabbed him after a TD and told him to calm down. He seems like a good guy too; he's a goofy guy if you follow his twitter.

We'll see how he performs against stiffer competition. We've got two seasons at least until we need to evaluate him as a prospect.

This guy has a deadly arm from the outfield. I watched FSU baseball this year and people rarely ever tried to take extra bases on him. He had a throw against Clemson to 3rd base where he got the runner and the Clemson kid got up like "what the hell???"
TS I was hoping you would weigh in. Please drop an occasion line about what you see if you will. Few are the RS I get to focus on as so many others to watch. I should have caught his eligibility when I saw he is still 18. That is what I was reviewing in my mind when I hit the post. He "rages" on the field supposedly and drew some penalties in high school I believe. Looks like all he needs is seasoning.
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Just got word that some bad stuff is about to come out in the news. Hope the source is wrong but I trust them. It's really bad.

I will update when it is confirmed.
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Just got word that some bad stuff is about to come out in the news. Hope the source is wrong but I trust them. It's really bad.

I will update when it is confirmed.
Florida State QB Jameis Winston
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Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/13/jameis...#ixzz2kZXWCtQ3
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I've also heard reports that they are investigating someone between 5'9 and 5'11. Winston is 6'4 so.

We will see when better reports come out.
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I've also heard reports that they are investigating someone between 5'9 and 5'11. Winston is 6'4 so.

We will see when better reports come out.
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Tallahassee, FL - Tallahassee attorney Tim Jansen says he is representing FSU Quarterback Jameis Winston. He says Winston is cooperating with the investigation. Jansen says Winston has not been charged with anything and says Winston has never been questioned by Tallahassee police about the incident, not in December of 2012 and not recently.

Jansen says it is his understanding that this case was closed by Tallahassee police in February.

WCTV will bring more information as it becomes available.
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So, it's nothing really.

He was investigated, but they never actually questioned him. His attorney said he thought they had closed the investigation, but I guess he recently learned that they hadn't closed it yet. They are looking for someone between 5'9" and 5'11" per police report.

Sounds like this was just brought up now to make a story.
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I've also heard reports that they are investigating someone between 5'9 and 5'11. Winston is 6'4 so.

We will see when better reports come out.
Well, his lawyer has already admitting representing him in the matter. So there must be something.
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Well, his lawyer has already admitting representing him in the matter. So there must be something.
Nothing has changed in the investigation since December of 2012, almost one year ago and he was never questioned.

I doubt anything comes of it at all. I doubt they even update the story past that he was investigated and not questioned. Sounds like it could have been a football player though.
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But that's BYU...a Mormon school. All bets are off there.
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But that's BYU...a Mormon school. All bets are off there.
I didn't mean to imply that BYU and FSU have the same code of conduct. They clearly don't.

But I posted that because it is important to note that the burden of proof required for the school code is obviously not the same as what is needed for a criminal case.
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Here's the million dollar question; if Winston is there at 16, do we take him?
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1. Sexual Misconduct. a. Any sexual act that occurs without the consent of the victim, or that occurs when the victim is unable to give consent. Consent is defined as the willing and clear participation in the sexual act. Inability to give consent includes but is not limited to situations where the individual is: i. under the influence of alcohol, drugs or other substances (including but not limited to prescribed medications); ii. unconscious, asleep, ill or in shock; iii. under the age of eighteen and therefore legally incapable of giving consent; or iv. known by reason of impairment, mental condition or developmental or physical disability to be reasonably unable to give consent. Consent is not freely given if no clear verbal consent is given; if the individual is not able to give consent or if consent is achieved through force, threat of force, or coercion. Consent to one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to other forms of sexual activity. Consent is not the lack of resistance; there is no duty to fight in order to indicate lack of consent. Consent can be withdrawn at any time, as long as the withdrawal is clearly communicated by the person withdrawing consent through words or actions. b. Obscene or indecent behavior, which includes, but is not limited to, exposure of one's sexual organs or the display of sexual behavior that would reasonably be offensive to others. c. Conduct of a sexual nature that creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive environment for another person. This includes unwanted, unwelcome, inappropriate, or irrelevant sexual or gender-based behaviors, actions or comments.
Here is a portion of FSU's code of conduct. It's in the state administrative code so you can look it up but it takes you to a pdf. All offenses are determined by preponderance of evidence.
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Here is a portion of FSU's code of conduct. It's in the state administrative code so you can look it up but it takes you to a pdf. All offenses are determined by preponderance of evidence.
95% of sex on campus would then be against code because that percentage of students are under the influence by 8 pm. But who is the victim when both parties are under the influence? Are both guilty of having sex with the other while under the influence? In practice, it usually is just a way to make the guy accountable for a morning after regret, even when he is just as drunk as the gal.

It's just another acceptable double standard like:

Minorities can't be prejudiced.
Men are responsible while drunk but women aren't.
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It's just another acceptable double standard like:

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Men are responsible while drunk but women aren't.
Good for you, you found another example of being the poor abused white man.

It's not a double standard - only 1 has a penis and only 1 has a vagina and never will the 2 be the same.

But I was just supplying some of the code of conduct so people could stop going back and forth on what it might be in comparison to BYU.
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Good for you, you found another example of being the poor abused white man.

It's not a double standard - only 1 has a penis and only 1 has a vagina and never will the 2 be the same.

But I was just supplying some of the code of conduct so people could stop going back and forth on what it might be in comparison to BYU.
Watch out for those finger pointing back at you. Jealously guard the Prime Victim mentality. Life is tough. It's not just tough for minorities, women and perverts.
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