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Old 08-29-2013   #1
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Default Closing pre-season thoughts?

Texans look as ready for the regular season as they ever have. Yes, it's only pre-season in which most of it was played against the other guys 2s and 3s, but our 2s and 3s looked pretty good.

Just based on the pre-season alone, without yet seeing them in their first regular action, I like our chances to move deeper into the playoffs this year.

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QB B
RB A-
Rec B+
TE B-
O-line C+

D-line B+
LB C+
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Kickers A-
rest of special teams C (because we got good kickers)
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Texans look as ready for the regular season as they ever have. Yes, it's only pre-season in which most of it was played against the other guys 2s and 3s, but our 2s and 3s looked pretty good.

Just based on the pre-season alone, without yet seeing them in their first regular action, I like our chances to move deeper into the playoffs this year.

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QB B
RB A-
Rec B+
TE B-
O-line C+

D-line B+
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DB B

Kickers A-
rest of special teams C (because we got good kickers)
I would agree pretty much based off 2's & 3's. in summary depth is much improved. 5 premier starters then several question marks that could go either way. That's why they play the games!
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i think preseason confirmed what we already knew, but there were some very pleasant surprises.

QB A ... we have 3 guys who could start for many teams.
RB A ... foster, tate, and any of the UDFA's is quite a stable.
Rec B+ ... if posey and hopkins can stay healthy i think our receiving core is lightyears better than any other year.
TE A+ ... daniels, graham, and the kid all look great
O-line B+, D ... most of the line is solid and brooks has been outstanding. derrick newton is horrible, i dont even want him backing up RT.

D-line A+ ... big earl was a highlight, letting us breathe easier about nose tackle. mitchell along with ninja and watt gives us maybe the best front in football.
LB D+ ... i'm worried. cushing will need some time to be himself, and i dont see another ILB on the team. OLB is kind of a grey area for me, i dont know what we actually have yet.
DB B ... havent really seen everybody together yet, and havent had the whole front ahead of them, so again i'm not entirely sure what we have. swearinger was everything advertised though, so i'm excited about our safeties.

Kickers A ... bullock hits from 55 and is putting kickoffs out of the endzone, and lechler is still one of the best in the game.
rest of special teams D ... untimely penalties and drops are bad. lane assignment seems only slightly better than last year, and kick coverage is still weak.
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Default Re: Closing pre-season thoughts?

Keenum stepped it up, but Yates held him off, IMO. Keenum won a spot on the 53 without question, but Yates didn't do anything to lose his job. I think it's Yates #2.

Cierre Wood is a better #3 option than Justin Forsett, IMO. At least, he has more upside, I believe.

Ryan Griffin is better at this point than Graham was at that point, I think. I like what I see.

Lestar Jean is becoming a better WR, but he won't ever catch very well, I don't think. Maybe he needs to have someone throw bricks at ... err, to him.

Liked what I saw from Posey.
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The team has never had this quality of depth, which is necessary to go the distance. Concerns at right tackle and all over the linebacker squad. But at wide receiver, we're stacked.
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This season will be remembered as "The year of the undrafted free agent."
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My closing preseason thoughts?

Thank God. Let's get this show on the road.
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My thoughts are, see ya'll in New York......
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Cierre Wood is a better #3 option than Justin Forsett, IMO. At least, he has more upside, I believe.
I think if Cierre Wood makes the 53, we won't hear about any injury whatsoever from Ben Tate. He'll be begging to go in the game with a separated shoulder ala Emmit Smith.
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Rookie OLB Trevardo Williams had 3.5 sacks. Only 3 players in league had more. Bryan Braman had 3 and Terrell McClain 2.5.

Randy Bullock had 12 touchbacks to tie for third in league

Rookie TE Ryan Griffin, a 4th round pick, ranked 2nd in league with 14 catches. He'll make team as third tight end.

Undrafted rookie Cierre Wood ran for 191 yards to rank 5th in league in preseason

Case Keenum led league with 482 yards passing in preseason.

With TJ Yates and Case Keenum playing so well Texans led league with 1,201 yards passing and 444.3 yards per game.

Texans were 4th in rushing, 4th in defense and 12th in pass defense in preseason.

For what it's worth: Texans led NFL in Offense, Passing Offense and Run Defense in preseason.
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Am I wrong? I don't believe Trevardo had a "whole bunch" of snaps. I think Braman had a bunch & 3 sacks for the number of snaps he had isn't very impressive, especially considering 2 of the three were more hustle than beating his opponent (all sacks are good & all, but...)

Terrell McClain also had a lot of snaps, but from his position, that's promising.
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QB: B+. For the first time in Texans history, we have real depth at the QB position (as opposed to 07'/08' Schaub vs Rosencopter "depth"). For back-up QB, Keenum has the arm and intangibles to succeed in the NFL and either at 2nd or 3rd string for 2013, he will be groomed to inherit this offense one day. TJ looks solid, in that veteran backup sort of way...which is likely all he will be here.

RB: B-. I wasn't too impressed with Johnson or Karim (why was Kubiak so high on this guy again?). Wood on the other hand is a beast in the making and belongs on the roster. Tate looks as I would expect, which is underpaid.

WR: A-. Between Hopkins and Posey, Schaub has everything he needs to get the job done. I know it's just preseason, but WR looks like a huge bullet dodged going into the regular season.

TE: A-. Solid, solid, solid. I doubt Casey will be missed much.

OL: C+. Left side, good. Right side, bad. Derek Newton needs something, like replaced as soon as possible...lest we see more of Keenum/Yates this season than we really wanted. Quessenberry is a pleasant surprise.

Defense:

DL: A+. Earl Mitchell came into the preseason hungry and showed that he can be very dangerous. It's almost funny to think that he used to back up Cody - huge improvement there. Add in the Ninja and Watt and our d-line is something to be feared this season.

LB: C+. I'm going to be optimistic and say that once the season gets started Cushing and Reed will shine and bring up the game of Mercilus and Sharpton in the process. (Sharpton right? Please tell me we don't plan on Mays starting opening day). If not, it could be a long year.

DB: D+. KJ was a bright spot, but I'm worried. JJo looks like he's half-assing while Harris, McCain, and Carmichael (to a lesser degree, granted) all look as they typically do: mediocre. CB is definitely the weak link in our defensive chain.

S: C+. Someone on here wrote that Swearinger was like a Bernard Pollard who actually had coverage value and I agree. With a mentor like Ed Reed on the sideline, this kid could be something special (as opposed to Keo, who is just 'special'). Speaking of Ed Reed, does something here smell vaguely of Ahman Green or is that just me?

Special Teams: B-.

K/P. Bullock and Lechler look great, as expected.

The rest: Thank god Lechler and Bullock look great.

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I'm just hoping our D Line can create enough havoc to mask our deficiencies behind them.
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My thought is one of gratitude...

Grateful for the optimism we can have for this upcoming season,

Grateful we had no major injuries this preseason,

Grateful we don't have an owner who makes himself more important than the team,

Grateful we're not scrambling to answer for & replace a multi-murder suspect player,

Grateful our front office kicks a$$ signing quality UDFAs,

Grateful we don't have big question marks behind Schaub,

Grateful we don't have a coach who puts his starting QB into a 4th quarter preseason game behind a 3rd & 4th string offensive line,

Grateful for son of Bum,

Grateful we get to cheer for the Defensive Player Of the Year who models character and integrity and charity every day in real life,

Grateful to share this journey with like-minded zealots.

So today is a pretty good day for this Texans fan.
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My thought is one of gratitude...

Grateful for the optimism we can have for this upcoming season,

Grateful we had no major injuries this preseason,

Grateful we don't have an owner who makes himself more important than the team,

Grateful we're not scrambling to answer for & replace a multi-murder suspect player,

Grateful our front office kicks a$$ signing quality UDFAs,

Grateful we don't have big question marks behind Schaub,

Grateful we don't have a coach who puts his starting QB into a 4th quarter preseason game behind a 3rd & 4th string offensive line,

Grateful for son of Bum,

Grateful we get to cheer for the Defensive Player Of the Year who models character and integrity and charity every day in real life,

Grateful to share this journey with like-minded zealots.

So today is a pretty good day for this Texans fan.
Well said Mr. Playoffs. Well said.
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My thought is one of gratitude...

Grateful for the optimism we can have for this upcoming season,

Grateful we had no major injuries this preseason,

Grateful we don't have an owner who makes himself more important than the team,

Grateful we're not scrambling to answer for & replace a multi-murder suspect player,

Grateful our front office kicks a$$ signing quality UDFAs,

Grateful we don't have big question marks behind Schaub,

Grateful we don't have a coach who puts his starting QB into a 4th quarter preseason game behind a 3rd & 4th string offensive line,

Grateful for son of Bum,

Grateful we get to cheer for the Defensive Player Of the Year who models character and integrity and charity every day in real life,

Grateful to share this journey with like-minded zealots.

So today is a pretty good day for this Texans fan.
Excellent post; unfortunately, MSR.
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