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Old 07-27-2013   #1
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For years the Eagles have had major problems trying to contain opposing tight ends. I think they’ll be able to rid themselves of that problem going forward because of the size and coverage ability of newly acquired veteran outside linebacker Connor Barwin. Barwin has all the ingredients needed to defend a tight end. He’s got great size at 6’4″ 264 pounds with surprising catchup speed and the ability to change of direction very quickly.
The former Houston Texan also has the long arms which are needed to get a good jam on the tight end. I think this is one of the most important keys to limiting the effectiveness of the tight end. You’ve got to make it difficult for them to get off the line and into their routes. He’s shown me that he can hold up the tight ends with his jam.
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After last nights game vs Carolina when Connor got 3.5 sacks, Barwin is now tied for second in league sack rankings with a total of 10.5.
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Default Re: "Eagles Have A Very Talented Player In Connor Barwin"

The Eagles are doing some great things with castoffs from other teams.

I did not think Mark Sanchez had it in him anymore.

As for Barwin, I guess Wade's system did not utilize him properly. We sure could use him on our d-line right now.
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As for Barwin, I guess Wade's system did not utilize him properly. We sure could use him on our d-line right now.
He'd sure be a good fit for us now, imo. Congrats to him and the Eagles for getting the most out of him.
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The Eagles are doing some great things with castoffs from other teams.

I did not think Mark Sanchez had it in him anymore.

As for Barwin, I guess Wade's system did not utilize him properly. We sure could use him on our d-line right now.
Really ! We've got 2 pass-rushers (Mercilus & Clowney), but neither knows anything about covering the TE while Reed does but can't effectively rush from the edge, while Connor can do it all including very effectivley setting the edge on rush defense. But as I recall, the Texans were really kinda apathetic about giving Connor a solid offer.
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Really ! We've got 2 pass-rushers (Mercilus & Clowney), but neither knows anything about covering the TE while Reed does but can't effectively rush from the edge, while Connor can do it all including very effectivley setting the edge on rush defense. But as I recall, the Texans were really kinda apathetic about giving Connor a solid offer.
I'm starting to see this as a pattern. I wonder if he would have stayed here for a little less.

I wonder how different the Texans would have looked with Sanchez and Barwin at the beginning of the season.
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Default Re: "Eagles Have A Very Talented Player In Connor Barwin"

Let's not forget most folks around wanted Barwin gone or kept only on a cheap deal.

Oh luck, a poll turns useful. 92 responses, 3 thought he was worth paying what the Eagles gave him - Link

The most popular response, 33 of 92, was half as much.
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The Eagles are doing some great things with castoffs from other teams.

I did not think Mark Sanchez had it in him anymore.

As for Barwin, I guess Wade's system did not utilize him properly. We sure could use him on our d-line right now.
Yep and I don't blame Rick Smith on this one. This was mostly on Wade.

Extending Cushing coming off injury and not re-signing Barwin looks kinda stupid now.
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I never cared when Barwin left. D-Ryans, on the other hand, irked me a bit. He was getting much better towards the end of the 2011 season.

It normally doesn't bother me when players come and go, but that one did a little for some reason.
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I never cared when Barwin left. D-Ryans, on the other hand, irked me a bit. He was getting much better towards the end of the 2011 season.

It normally doesn't bother me when players come and go, but that one did a little for some reason.
I didn't know what to make out of our OLB's under Wade other than he short time he had Mario.


None of them did much for me. I thought both Reed and Barwin were better suited for over the TE and I didn't feel comfortable with Merciless as the premiere edge rusher on the team.

If this team didn't have JJ Watt we all know the team would be much worse off....

But dang...that defensive front might be the worst in football...
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Barwin had one great year here that was a statistical anomaly, as I recall most of his sacks came from being unblocked. He was used poorly in our scheme
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I never cared when Barwin left. D-Ryans, on the other hand, irked me a bit. He was getting much better towards the end of the 2011 season.

It normally doesn't bother me when players come and go, but that one did a little for some reason.
I was going to say the same thing (great minds!).

I was indifferent about Barwin, but we knew what we had with DeMeco Ryans. And he's fulfilled all of our expectations and more in Philly.

I know you can't keep them all, but DeMeco was one of those players that I always thought you keep and figure out a way to make it happen.
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If we had Connor on our team & the Eagles had gotten Reed instead, Reed would have had 3.5 sacks last night. Connor Barwin is not a corner stone, or even a building block. He's good to have around while you're waiting for your young guys to develop.

He's got all the talent, he's very athletic, but he's got poor instincts & he's soft.
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I don't remember too many people being upset about letting Barwin walk. The problem with this franchise isn't that guys leave to get paid, that happens to every team. It's that our drafts are so bad that we can never patch all the holes that are left behind.



Ryans doesn't fit this example. He wasn't cut and he didn't leave in free agency. We traded him for a 4th round pick and to move up 12 spots in the 3rd round. That's actually not a bad deal for us, considering where Ryans was at the time. And as I recall, most fans were generally happy with that trade. We were sad to see Ryans go but we were running a 43 at the time and Cushing was looking great at MLB. Ryans was expendable and we got something for him while we still could.



What did we do with the picks? We drafted Brooks and Jones and the Eagles drafted Foles with the one we gave them.

We played 34 for a season before Ryans was traded
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