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Default Duane Brown has emergent ankle bone spur removal

Surgery was this morning. They say he will be back for TC.


If there is a small bone spur that is giving chronic pain, the surgery is elective and arthroscopic.

When it is an emergency arthroscopic surgery, it usually means that there is an acute "impingement" of the ankle joint, where soft tissue or bone fragments are caught in the joint space, and does not allow for normal movement of the anke joint.......sometimes freezing any joint motion altogether.

The former type of spur may only require 1-3 weeks for return to play.
The latter "impingment" type may require as long as 3-6 months for return to play.

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Default Re: Duane Brown has emergency ankle bone spur removal

Great. Just got the text from 610am about this.

Not what I wanted to see this morning. I'm hoping as Cloak described, its the former type of spur, not the latter.
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Default Re: Duane Brown has emergency ankle bone spur removal

So new injury or is it something he just decided needed surgery to correct?
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Default Re: Duane Brown has emergency ankle bone spur removal

Eh, better to have it cleaned up now than lingering throughout the season.
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So new injury or is it something he just decided needed surgery to correct?
Had issues for the past month

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Default Re: Duane Brown has emergency ankle bone spur removal

More reps for Q, Williams, Gardner and Harris
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Williams is out till camp, at best.

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Default Re: Duane Brown has emergency ankle bone spur removal

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Surgery was this morning. They say he will be back for TC.


If there is a small bone spur that is giving chronic pain, the surgery is elective and arthroscopic.

When it is an emergency arthroscopic surgery, it usually means that there is an acute "impingement" of the ankle joint, where soft tissue or bone fragments are caught in the joint space, and does not allow for normal movement of the anke joint.......sometimes freezing any joint motion altogether.

The former type of spur may only require 1-3 weeks for return to play.
The latter "impingment" type may require as long as 3-6 months for return to play.
Emergency?

I didn't get that sense from Kubiak.

Two days ago, Duane Brown left OTAs slightly early before walk thrus. We asked Kubiak about injuries and he sort of just gave us the all good.

Yesterday vets didn't practice. He was there. He was walking around fine. No limp, nothing that looked wrong at all. He rode his Segway back to the stadium after practice was done.

Kubiak was saying today that the ankle was bothering him a little so they figured they'd do something now so it wouldn't be a problem later in the season.

So given your definition, not sure it is emergent. Kubiak didn't seem terribly concerned but it isn't his ankle.
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Emergency?

I didn't get that sense from Kubiak.

Two days ago, Duane Brown left OTAs slightly early before walk thrus. We asked Kubiak about injuries and he sort of just gave us the all good.

Yesterday vets didn't practice. He was there. He was walking around fine. No limp, nothing that looked wrong at all. He rode his Segway back to the stadium after practice was done.

Kubiak was saying today that the ankle was bothering him a little so they figured they'd do something now so it wouldn't be a problem later in the season.

So given your definition, not sure it is emergent. Kubiak didn't seem terribly concerned but it isn't his ankle.
I'm not sure that I understand your last statement......."but it isn't his ankle."

Nevertheless, even when you have "impingement," you can usually walk without a limp or ride a Segway. You will many times have significant problems only when you put the foot in strained dorsiflexion (as an OT must always do when he forcefully pushes off) that it reveals itself. That's why it is commonly referred to as "football ankle."

If the ankle begins to impinge, the problem becomes emergent, much like a knee that begins locking up or giving out. You are correct, I should have not used the word "emergency" as in the type of case where a person is bleeding out and needs to be taken to surgery immediately. I appreciate your comments.

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I'm not sure that I understand your last statement......."but it isn't his ankle."

Nevertheless, even when you have "impingement," you can usually walk without a limp or ride a Segway. You will many times have significant problems only when you put the foot in strained dorsiflexion (as an OT must always do when he forcefully pushes off) that it reveals itself. That's why it is commonly referred to as "football ankle."

If the ankle begins to impinge, the problem becomes emergent, much like a knee that begins locking up or giving out. You are correct, I should have not used the word "emergency" as in the type of case where a person is bleeding out and needs to be taken to surgery immediately. I appreciate your comments.

Oh, I was just meaning to say that Kubiak didn't seem overly concerned but that it wasn't Kubiak's ankle. You know, it's *minor* surgery if it is done to somebody else.

It sounded more like a pain issue over a while versus an impingement, but because of timing, they wanted to deal with now instead of wondering about it during the season.

But I saw the headline of this thread and it sounded more alarming than what I thought Kubiak was saying about it.
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Oh, I was just meaning to say that Kubiak didn't seem overly concerned but that it wasn't Kubiak's ankle. You know, it's *minor* surgery if it is done to somebody else.

It sounded more like a pain issue over a while versus an impingement, but because of timing, they wanted to deal with now instead of wondering about it during the season.

But I saw the headline of this thread and it sounded more alarming than what I thought Kubiak was saying about it.

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