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Old 05-27-2013   #1
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NFL MVP Adrian Peterson says he has family members who are gay whom he loves and respects. But on gay marriage, the Minnesota Vikings running back says "that's not something I believe in."
Peterson made his comments last week in an interview with with Sirius/XM NFL Radio. He was asked his thoughts on the Vikings cutting longtime punter Chris Kluwe, an outspoken advocate for gay rights and gay marriage.

"It hurt me to see him leave," Peterson said.

Peterson says he considers Kluwe a good friend but he differs with the punter on the subject for gay marriage.

"To each his own, [but] I'm not with it," he said. "I have relatives who are gay. I'm not biased towards them. I still treat them the same. I love 'em. But again, I'm not with that. That's not something I believe in. But to each his own," he said.

The running back said he didn't believe the Vikings released Kluwe, who has since signed with the Oakland Raiders, because of his outspoken nature.

"I'm sure the Vikings organization didn't release him based on that," he said. "They know Kluwe. They've been knowing him for a long time. They know he's outspoken."

Gay marriage will become legal in Minnesota on Aug. 1.
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******* the state
Wonder if this is gonna be a controversy, especially with the state AD plays in becoming legal for gay marriage in just a couple months and before the current season begins ? AD is one of the biggest stars in the NFL, could get interesting ?
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Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.
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Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.
Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?
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Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?
I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.
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I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.
I can't think of a better way to say it. Well done, TPN.
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I'm for gay marriage. I don't consider that politically correct, I consider it morally and ethically correct.

I don't care if somebody has a different opinion. Doesn't bother me if Adrian Peterson doesn't agree with it. He stated his opinion in a decent and good way.

What I DON'T agree with are people who state that same opinion in a homophobic or violent way.
It's really hard for a thread to continue when someone sums up the issue so eloquently.

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I think ADs comments are newsworthy mostly because it's not about his attitude towards homosexuality where he's clearly expressed an attitude of tolerance even though he says he himself is "not with it", but it's that he is not supportive or tolerant of gay marriage and that almost surely is the attitude of the vast majority of the NFL rank-and-file membership. Now that's significant because he's one of the most popular and highly regarded players among his peers in the entire NFL. We've still got a PR war going on over the gay marriage issue, and right now the Supreme Court is also in final deliberations about their decision re the constitutionality of gay marriage. I'm thinking they are due with a decision in the coming weeks ?
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Totally agree with you, but my question is will it be acceptable to the PC crowd ?
There's always going to be someone that gets upset over something. I try to spend as little time as I can worrying about who'll get upset over which issue.

So yeah, of course someone will not like his perspective. You know that. But until one of those people show up we can't give them the fifth degree wondering why
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Why would it be controversial? He didn't say anything wrong. He doesn't agree with the behavior from a personal stand point, but he's not trying to stop then from being them either.

Nothing wrong with his viewpoint.
Agree'd 100%.

Kinda the way I feel about drugs ..... I don't use them but I think you should be free to make that choice.
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******* the state
Wonder if this is gonna be a controversy, especially with the state AD plays in becoming legal for gay marriage in just a couple months and before the current season begins ? AD is one of the biggest stars in the NFL, could get interesting ?
Do you get up each morning and google to try to find some stories on gays in the military or sports you can try to pound?

Anyway, as others have already pointed out he said nothing about rejecting anyone so total non-story.

How about you wait until AP says he won't share a locker room with someone he knows to be gay instead of doing your own soliloquy bombardment of anti-gay, anti-PC posts. It's tired.
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Do you get up each morning and google to try to find some stories on gays in the military or sports you can try to pound?

Anyway, as others have already pointed out he said nothing about rejecting anyone so total non-story.

How about you wait until AP says he won't share a locker room with someone he knows to be gay instead of doing your own soliloquy bombardment of anti-gay, anti-PC posts. It's tired.
If the story was big enough to be a lead on ESPNs main website page, then it seemed worthy of getting some mention on the Texans website NFL-area sub-section. Just trying to do my own small part in my own modest way to keep the masses informed.
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Not being able to see the actual question and Peterson's response, it's unclear if Peterson is anti-gay marriage or if he's just not "down with" being gay. Plenty of people do not necessarily understand homosexual behavior. I can't say I understand it, because I don't have those desires or feelings. But, I can accept that others do. And they should have the same rights I have, in regards to whom they choose to marry.

Not being able to hear how the question was framed, or if he understood the question, I'm not sure if Peterson doesn't feel the same.
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Like he said, to each their own. He's obviously not homophobic, just doesn't believe in gay marriage. To each their own. Hell I'm antimarriage in general but if gays and lesbians want to be equally as unhappy married, more power to them. Not like we have a great marriage track record.
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Also I find it interesting how you can tell who supports gay rights and who doesn't by the language they use. Somebody using the words homosexuals or gays is almost always speaking negatively about the issue and is trying to otherize gay people. Usually they tend to shy away from calling them people in general.
This is based on what exactly?
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Adrian Peterson once compared NFL players to slaves during the lockout, so his opinion on literally everything should be rendered completely irrelevant.
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I have no idea why any one cares what ADP thiinks about gay marriage.
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Pretty much sums up my opinion on this matter, but I'd rather focus on football.
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He has an opinion, which I share. Good for him to speak his mind in the face of 'media over-hyped' backlash. Apparently not hopping on the gay-bandwagon is frowned upon by today's society. I do not care about your sexual orientation, but do not throw it in my face and expect me to applaud you!
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He's a running back. It's not like he's a philosophy major.
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This is based on what exactly?
This is the article I was thinking of when writing that, have a read:

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To stop prejudice-based bullying, gay people need to be normalised - not distanced by language. Plain English dictates that we use "people" instead of Homo sapiens so it follows that "gay people" is less stigmatising than "homosexuals". The noun "homosexual" is equally dehumanising and cold. Reporting needs to be neutral. To be clear, I'm not advocating saccharine and perfunctory warmth to replace this coldness – "those fabulous, wonderful gays!" – but the entirely neutral "gay people".

There's a deeper, more important reason to scrap this pernicious noun. It's loaded with discriminatory baggage. "Homosexual" was the carefully chosen oppressive medical vernacular employed to describe gay people as mentally ill. The American Psychiatric Association officially declassified it as a mental illness in 1974; the World Health Organisation eventually followed suit in 1992. But the hangover effect lives on: some medical professionals still use it as a justification for carrying out so-called "homosexual-cure" therapies. As such, "homosexual" can never be thought to come from a neutral position.
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