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Default Re. Keenum......"Doubt him at your own risk"....

Just happened across this nice write up of Keenum by a sportwriter that has won six national Associated Press Sports Editor awards in six years (And no, he is not a U of H grad).

Case Keenum rediscovers his command: UH star to challenge T.J. Yates for backup QB job

By Chris Baldwin

5.12.13 | 6:04 am

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One of the first things that jumps out is the voice. Case Keenum's booming voice is back. It fills up the indoor practice bubble in the first session of the Houston Texans' rookie mini camp, leaving little doubt who's huddle this is.

The former University of Houston legend is back in command, doing what he does best, grabbing the shot much of the NFL was reluctant to give him. He flings on-the-money out passes to the sideline with seemingly little effort. He hits rookie receiver DeAndre Hopkins deep. He even overthrows Hopkins a few times (so much for that "weak" arm). He gets the offense in and out of the huddle quickly, his barked out play calls impossible to miss.

Call it the evolution of a pro quarterback. Yes, a pro quarterback.

The doubts that Case Keenum — who treated all-time NCAA passing records like mere speed bumps at UH — can play at the NFL level have been more than a little ridiculous from the beginning. Art Briles, Kevin Sumlin and now Gary Kubiak have all shown belief in this once unheralded prospect from West Texas. Those are three coaches who've proven they know a little something about the quarterback position.


It's no longer crazy to think that Keenum could emerge as Schaub's backup coming out of training camp.

It might be time for others to grudgingly acknowledge Keenum's ability, his progress. That's clearly emerged as one of the stories of this five-practice, three-day weekend camp. Whether the doubters want to believe it or not.

"It feels completely different coming in here now than it did a year ago," is how Keenum puts it to CultureMap in a one-on-one interview. "My confidence, my knowledge . . . they're both much higher.

"Everything feels much more natural than it did last year."

So much so that T.J. Yates might have reason to worry. It's no longer crazy to think that Case Keenum could emerge as Matt Schaub's backup coming out of training camp. Oh, the UH man still isn't a favorite to supplant Yates for that job. Then again, Keenum's never been the favorite for any of the quarterback roles he's won in the past either.

"I think Case is fixing to be extremely competitive with T.J. and Matt," Texans coach Gary Kubiak says.

Keenum himself isn't about to come out and say he's gunning for this job or that job. He has too much quarterback respect for that. "Sure, I've set goals for myself," is the most he'll allow.

But there's no mistaking the leap forward he's already made. Keenum will get much more of a chance to show what he can do in this year's preseason than he did last summer as an undrafted free agent. Kubiak says he plans to play No. 7 a good amount.
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Would be nice to have an in-house successor to Schaub instead of having to spend a high draft pick on a QB.
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Just happened across this nice write up of Keenum by a sportwriter that has won six national Associated Press Sports Editor awards in six years (And no, he is not a U of H grad).

Case Keenum rediscovers his command: UH star to challenge T.J. Yates for backup QB job

By Chris Baldwin

5.12.13 | 6:04 am

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Wondering how to take this statement:
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"I think Case is fixing to be extremely competitive with T.J. and Matt," Texans coach Gary Kubiak says.
Does it merely mean Case is up to the level of T.J. and Matt...?
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Does it mean the depth chart is fluid and neither T.J., Matt, nor Case have locked down their spots....?

I'm hoping against hope it's the second one. If not this year, then in 2014.

Extension or no, I have no issue with Keenum pushing Schaub for that job. I want the most capable guy to hit the field.
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Default Re: Re. Keenum......"Doubt him at your own risk"....

This writer was the same guy who wrote this:

Texans will rue the night they took Pizza Boy J.J. Watt over Nick Fairley, Houston lover

Which may be the worst post-draft article ever ever written. Can't say I'm a fan of any of his NFL writing, which is appears to be written to provoke a response. Like this one.

Case Keenum has looked fine in the camp with no pads on and no real pass rush. Not like WOWWEEE hyperbole good though.

Does look better than last year. Which damns with the faintest of praise. Both TJ and Case had rough preseasons.

I can't buy any of the successor talk or the displacing TJ talk. Looks like a hype article.

Yes, I've heard Kubiak really likes Case. But hard to see him as an NFL starter.
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But hard to see him as an NFL starter.
He could surprise you.

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He could surprise you.

signed Drew Brees
I don't think she's saying that because of his height.
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I don't think she's saying that because of his height.
Perhaps he means that nobody expected the #32 overall pick in the 2001 draft to be an NFL starter just like nobody expects a UDFA who wasn't one of the 253 players taken in the 2012 draft to be an NFL starter.

If so, he'd be absolutely and totally dead wrong, but perhaps that's what he means.
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He could surprise you.

signed Drew Brees
i wonder how many times fans bring up drew brees every time theres a 6 foot qb in their camp, or how many times tom brady is mentioned whenever a late round backup takes over for the injured starter..

either way i dont understand what drew brees has to do with case keenum.. brees was the 1st pick of the 2nd round, drafted to be the chargers future qb, he made the pro bowl as a charger case is an unproven udfa.. their situations arent even remotley the same..
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brees was the 1st pick of the 2nd round, drafted to be the chargers future qb, he made the pro bowl as a charger..
After his intial 3 seasons, Brees was considered a bust. The Chargers drafted Eli Manning and traded him for Philip Rivers (the #4 pick in the draft) in the 2004 draft to replace Brees. It was after that, Brees exploded and became the Drew Brees we now know. Totally unexpected. If Keenum does anything, it would be even more of a shock.
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This writer was the same guy who wrote this:

Texans will rue the night they took Pizza Boy J.J. Watt over Nick Fairley, Houston lover

Which may be the worst post-draft article ever ever written. Can't say I'm a fan of any of his NFL writing, which is appears to be written to provoke a response. Like this one.

Case Keenum has looked fine in the camp with no pads on and no real pass rush. Not like WOWWEEE hyperbole good though.

Does look better than last year. Which damns with the faintest of praise. Both TJ and Case had rough preseasons.

I can't buy any of the successor talk or the displacing TJ talk. Looks like a hype article.

Yes, I've heard Kubiak really likes Case. But hard to see him as an NFL starter.
"Pizza Man" worked out great for us. But there were many at the time that felt that Farley would have been the better pick. As far as the Peyton article, it wasn't way out there. Luck enthusiasm quickly seemed to supplant the loss of Manning.

As far as Yates and Keenum having had a rough preseason last year. Yates was in his 2nd year (with NFL starter "experience"), and Keenum was the rookie just barely trying to find his way in a new system.

Keenum may or may not happen to make it to starter status in the NFL. We will be a step closer to finding out during this preseason. However, from everything that I've seen thus far, I find it much harder to ever see Yates as a "legitimate" NFL starter. With that said, I sincerely hope that the 2nd and 3rd QB spot is made "open" to competition this year......and not in facade only.
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This writer was the same guy who wrote this:

Texans will rue the night they took Pizza Boy J.J. Watt over Nick Fairley, Houston lover

Which may be the worst post-draft article ever ever written. Can't say I'm a fan of any of his NFL writing, which is appears to be written to provoke a response. Like this one...
Yeah, the guy is a real prize.
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I'm just glad to see Keenum improving things like accuracy and taking snaps from under center. (He's never done that before. Keenum has a chance to becme a Romo type QB if he reaches his potential. IMHO
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If you believe the fan starved offseason hype hopkins is rice and k is Montana. Dont bet the farm.
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I'm just glad to see Keenum improving things like accuracy and taking snaps from under center. (He's never done that before. Keenum has a chance to becme a Romo type QB if he reaches his potential. IMHO
It does not happen often, but I agree 100%
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This writer was the same guy who wrote this:

Texans will rue the night they took Pizza Boy J.J. Watt over Nick Fairley, Houston lover

Which may be the worst post-draft article ever ever written. Can't say I'm a fan of any of his NFL writing, which is appears to be written to provoke a response. Like this one.

Case Keenum has looked fine in the camp with no pads on and no real pass rush. Not like WOWWEEE hyperbole good though.

Does look better than last year. Which damns with the faintest of praise. Both TJ and Case had rough preseasons.

I can't buy any of the successor talk or the displacing TJ talk. Looks like a hype article.

Yes, I've heard Kubiak really likes Case. But hard to see him as an NFL starter.
Lets all be sure the guy didn't hang himself before bashing him, because that article is a career killer. If i was Chris Baldwin i would pray for an expiration or just switch to weather reporting. He should have to put a disclaimer on every future article with that link on it.
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Default Re: Re. Keenum......"Doubt him at your own risk"....

I won't ever rule out a QB, drafted or not, after what Tom Brady has done in this league. I am a firm believer that a QB put in the right system and with the right coach, can become a NFL starter...

If Keenum gets is shot, hope he makes the most of it...
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At worst, we will have same pecking order as last year. Schaub, Yates and Keenum. No one claimed Case off PS and 50- 50 will not do so again. It is good to have players we can talk about optimistically. Hopefully all three will be better this season.
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Wondering how to take this statement:
Does it merely mean Case is up to the level of T.J. and Matt...?
or
Does it mean the depth chart is fluid and neither T.J., Matt, nor Case have locked down their spots....?

I'm hoping against hope it's the second one. If not this year, then in 2014.

Extension or no, I have no issue with Keenum pushing Schaub for that job. I want the most capable guy to hit the field.
I think it means that Kubiak is saying nice things about his quarterback because there is no incentive to say bad things about a guy who want to instill confidence in.

I would fall out of my chair if Case was actually competitive with TJ or Matt. Just not seeing it.
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I think it means that Kubiak is saying nice things about his quarterback because there is no incentive to say bad things about a guy who want to instill confidence in.

I would fall out of my chair if Case was actually competitive with TJ or Matt. Just not seeing it.
You've been there, I haven't. I'll take your on-site assessment.

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I think it means that Kubiak is saying nice things about his quarterback because there is no incentive to say bad things about a guy who want to instill confidence in.

I would fall out of my chair if Case was actually competitive with TJ or Matt. Just not seeing it.
Any particular reasons or insights you'd like to share that made you reach this conclusion? I would be utterly shocked if Case passed Schaub, but not necessarily Yates. It should make for an interesting OTA and TC battle.
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