View Single Post
Old 06-18-2008   #60
Texan_Bill 
Subscribed Contributor
 
Texan_Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!!
Section: Bull Pen!!
Age: 47
Posts: 48,151
Rep Power: 108115 Texan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respectedTexan_Bill is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Scout.com prediction Texans 6-10

Quote:
Originally Posted by dalemurphy View Post
2. How clueless and/or cynical must one be to not see that Smith and Kubiak are doing a heck of a job and are obviously very good at what they're doing... not to mention, they're working together extremely well and have really focused the organization... To risk disrupting the inertia they've created doesn't make any sense.
I guess to some people no Super Bowl appearances after two seasons = failure. Or they fail to see the conditions in which Kubiak took this team over with the amount of Dead Money, and the constraints in which to work in against the salary cap hell, that we were headed towards.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texecutioner View Post
1. Your first arguement here isn't bad. If the Texans can cut him loose without a big penalty or something then I guess it doesn't make that much of a difference.

2. Kubiak has done the same thing. He has done a decent job. Nothing more and nothing less. He has done about as well as I would expect. He has not over achieved anything. He had a team that was 2-14. Of course the record was going to improve. Sorry, but I'm not sold on Kubiak either. I'm not saying he's a bad coach but I'm not willing to throw all of my chips in on the guy just yet.

Again the Texans were 7-9 and everyone thought they were about to break loose and then they went right down to 2-14. Not only was I not sold on Capers back then but I couldn't stand his game plan or him as a coach. Everyone told me I was crazy then, as well and swore that we were on our way to the promise land. Sorry, but I'm a realist and I'm not going to just proclaim the the Texans as being this break out team yet or that Kubiak is GOD. He has been here two years now and done a decent job, but nothing to throw confetti in the sky for. This will be his 3rd season as head coach where he has had a lot of say so in who the team drafts so I think after this year we'll all have a much stronger idea of what Kubiak can do as a head coach, but I'll wait and see before I buy into his whole philosophy and leadership. I am not going to automatically just assume he is the guy for years and years this early. I want to see more.

>>>>>>Intentionally un-bolded<<<<<<<<
1. There is no question 'IF'.

2. "...2-14 Obviously the record was going to improve...?? You really have no idea of how bad of shape this franchise was left in after the C&C Factory departed - huh? Salary Cap issues, with a ton of dead money. Not much talent and certainly NO depth on the roster. In fact, the roster has been drastically overhauled since Smith and Kubiak took the reigns.

Quote:
Again the Texans were 7-9 and everyone thought they were about to break loose and then they went right down to 2-14.
While many people did buy into that, with a closer look you would have noticed signs of them imploding. Jamie Sharper made comments about leadership on and off the field (referencing coaching and I am sure HWSRN). The Cleveland game alone that year was enough to send up red flags up. We had Cleveland, here. They weren't that good at the time. The Texans had every reason to come out and win to go 8-8 and yet the team imploded and got destroyed..

As far as phrases "break out years", I think thats a bit cliche', overworked, old and boring. A competitive year and at least in the hunt for the play-offs would be the next stepping stone for me.. As far as claiming Kubiak as "GOD", I haven't seen anyone proclaim that, but I guess that was an over-dramatization for symbolic sake. People have stated their being pleased with the progress Kubiak and Smith have made in two seasons given the constraints mentioned before. Not to mention the fact that both guys are in their very first HC and GM positions ever.
__________________
We SUCK AGAIN!
Texan_Bill is offline   Reply With Quote