Not a lack of dicipline
This is no way a lack of dicipline on this team, for the last 5 weeks the team has known that their passing game is their strength and their running game is weak, yet they keep running the ball in stupid situations. After 2 horrible losses in a row the players are getting a little sick of going out there and trying stuff that they have accepted will not win them games.
The players feel embarassed and if they are like me they feel that they wouldn't have looked like a bunch of chumps if they were passing the ball more instead of running on 2 & 15+. The team has yet to run for more than 12 yards on one play this season... so which leaves me to ask what happened to that BS about having managable 3rd downs. The players are begining to see this and it is now showing.
I've never been a fire Palmer guy but I'm getting there after the last 2 weeks.