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Old 09-29-2004   #25
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Originally Posted by infantrycak
You need to go back and watch those games again because the Texans were not dropping 8 on running plays. Sure if Holmes or LT came out they put someone on him, but that isn't what your original assertion was--that teams drop 7 or 8 guys back rather than leaving at least the normal seven men in the box just (which by the way is not in itself called stacking the line it is base D) to stop long runs by elite RB's--that simply isn't true.
Yeah, your right they werent dropping 8 on running plays but they were on pass plays to help stop LT/Holmes from catching the ball out of the backfield. By dropping 8 into coverage they showed that they werent going to let the RBs beat them. A year after LT averaged 6 catches a day for 7.3 yards per catch, the Texans droped 8 into coverage not because they were scared of Parker and Caldwell but because they were scared of L.T. and gave up 3 catches for -3 yards. And then they dropped 8 into coverage against the Chiefs because of Holmes and didnt allow him to catch a ball... So what I am saying is that if teams respected Davis' speed more they would bring more players closer to the line and may only bring 4 or 5 and that in turn would give Carr more time to throw...
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Originally Posted by infantrycak
Is because they had the elite RB's you said people should not be stacking against. Obviously where a team has no passing threat it makes the decision to stack easier. By the way, KC had over 4000 yds of passing last year--if people weren't scared of their nobody receivers they should have been cause they got burned enough.
They shouldnt but teams do and the runners destroy them with long runs to take off the pressure....
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Originally Posted by infantrycak
Yeah as a matter of fact early in the game he did. DD's runs in the 1st series--5, 6, 5, 8, 5. Then he got fumbilitis and his play went down hill.
He did start out nicely but I would rather have a back that gets better as the game goes on (not saying Hollings is that type of back)...
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Originally Posted by infantrycak
Stacking the line and blitzing are not synonymous by the way.
They are not synonymous by they are linked. Teams that stack the line are not going to bring saftey support and then drop the saftey back into coverage most of the time. Teams that stack the line show no respect for the running backs ability to hurt them with long runs and/or the ability to take a short dump off and make it into a big gain....
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Originally Posted by infantrycak
To end this debate, I point you to a RB that was never known for his speed or for busting off long runs. Nonetheless he was the focus of an offense and teams commonly had stopping him as their primary game plan, which they did by at least keeping 7 men in the box, and by the way his team had a future hall of fame QB and WR as a threat as well--he also happens to have run for more yards than any other RB--Emmitt Smith.
Season long runs of 48, 75, 68, 62, 46, 60, 42, 44, 32, 63, 52, 44....Smith busted off a good amount of good sized runs...
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