Originally Posted by ObsiWan
That's the way I took the stat/comment. Manning has never been without two or three or more pro-bowl caliber guys to throw to going back to his rookie year.
Joe Montana won his first ring throwing to the likes of Freddie Solomon, Dwight Clark, Charlie Young, and Earl Cooper (Go Owls!!). With the exception of Clark (they replay "The Catch" to death), do you remember any of those guys?
I don't know. Has he always had 2 or 3 Pro-Bowl caliber guys or does he make them that way?
Demaryius Thomas averaged 27 catches for 417 yards and 3 TD in his first 2 seasons before 18 arrived. He's averaged 93 catches for 1,432 yards and 12 TD with Forehead throwing the rock to him. Eric Decker, 44 catches, 612 yards, 8 TD before Peyton, and has averaged 86 catches for 1,176 yards and 12 TD in his 2 seasons with Peyton.
And now Julius Thomas, who no one had heard of before the season started, is now up there with the elite TEs in the league?
That said, there's more to this game of football than who has the best QB. And just because you don't have a drawer full of rings doesn't mean you aren't great. Nor does a drawer full mean you are. If that's the case, Terry Bradshaw is the GOAT end of story. And frankly, it's a joke that he's in the HOF. Mark Rypien is not a better QB than Dan Marino. Jim Plunkett is not better QB than Steve Young. Not even close.
This is a TEAM game, NOT a QB game. It's hard enough to win in this league in just the regular season. It's even harder in a win or go home situation like the NFL playoffs where the other side has a TEAM as well.
If Manning throws 2 picks against the 2-14 Texans in December, his team is probably still going to win that game fairly easily. And even if his team doesn't win that game, you move on to next week. Not the case in the playoffs.
Peyton Manning's team lost 4 football games this season. So his team can
be beat. Unfortunately for him, one of those losses was the Super Bowl. Eli Manning's team lost 7 games in 2011. It just worked out that one of those 7 losses weren't any of the last 4 they played. That's how shi
Peyton Manning didn't lose that football game Sunday because he's a choker in the playoffs or whatever. He lost because the other TEAM was better than his TEAM - that day