Originally Posted by matts290
So tonight's games really has me thinking about the appeal of a mobile/dual threat QB and how it applies to Manziel. Kaepernick and Wilson are the two poster boys for mobile QBs in todays NFL, and I must say from a pure QB standpoint I wasn't impressed with either of them tonight. Now was this because they rely so much on their ability to extend/make plays with their legs, or is it because they are both still really young guys who have a lot of learning to do.
Kaep made some outstanding plays with his legs including one really nice long run to set up a touchdown, but when it came down to it he lost the game because of his inability to make the correct throws. Wilson of course won the game, but outside of a couple extended plays with his legs, he didn't overly impress either and the Hawks defense is what won them the game.
So are these guys just products of their system and benefactors of two of the best defenses in the league, or are they really two of the best young QBs in the game? Put either of these guys on our current team and how many wins do they net us? As it stands, are we a playoff team with either of these guys at the helm? And if not, how much better can we expect Manziel to be in the event we do take him first overall? Do you view Manziel as having a higher ceiling than either Wilson or Kaep?
I guess what I am asking is this whole dual threat QB era just a fad and a mirage? Or are these guys really paving the way for players like Manziel to come in and have long successful careers in the NFL?
It's a fad and the bolded is why. As much as I like Wilson as a qb, He & Kaepernick probably wouldn't have been leading their respective teams anywhere much less the playoffs & SB playing the way they've played as of late. Basically, they'd look like RG3 did this past year if they didn't have their defenses to rely on...i.e. sporadic.
A qb's mobility is meant to be used like table salt. A little bit here and there to extend a play & move the chains is ok & can even enhance things..Too much of it more often than not is bad for the qb's health and for his team's offense. This is why you saw Kaepernick fall off in the 2nd half yesterday. Dude had a 120 yds rushing in the 1st half but in the 2nd half, the Seahawks made a concerted effort to keep him in the pocket. & when he could no longer run he started doing his Matt Schaub impression with all the TO's.
Wilson also had a number of WTF plays where he was running around behind the LOS & did his best Case Keenum impression taking 20 yard sacks & intentional grounding penalties.
Meanwhile, you've got 38 yo Manning destroying defenses to the tune of 400 yds & 2 TD's hardly moving at all. It just goes to show you that the most effective way to play qb in this league will always be standing in the pocket & going through your progressions. The ball moves quicker in the air than on the ground.