Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck
And my point is that the pre-injury Schaub WAS a guy who was a reason our team won games and he WAS a guy who put us into a position to win more. You're looking at the Schaub of the past couple of seasons and saying he was a guy who could NEVER win a SB and ignoring the guy he was prior to that. And the guy he was prior to that was a guy who could have won SB teams if he had been in the right situation. And he was a guy who WAS in the right situation at the right time in 2011... until a QB sneak and a broken foot.
Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Ben Roethlisberger, Brad Johnson... these guys are all guys who had to be in the right situation at the right time to win a SB. You could even include the 2nd year Tom Brady in there. Schaub, at his best, was one of those guys. The post-injury Schaub is not.
What I don't like is for people to re-write history and hate on a guy who's played and worked hard for this team and treat them like they're crap. Schaub was a really good QB... not a great QB and not a world-beater. But he wasn't a scrub.
Even Carr wasn't horrible his entire time here. It's really easy to get a case of selective memory and hate on Carr and say he was never anything but if you go back and check the games, that's not the case.
The other quarterbacks you mention were either elite or not elite but put in a situation where they could succeed easier by relying on the defense or their running game. The issue with Schaub is when the team was losing games or down by 14 to 28 points is when he played his best ball. When Schaub was finally put in a situation to win super bowls he was either hurt or literally choking under pressure of big games to the point where he couldn't be shielded by conservative or systematic gameplanning. In other words Schaub's biggest weakness was too big to be shielded to where he could win like Trent Dilfer or who ever else was a system qb. But go ahead and blame to offensive line, the coach, GM or then defense... do what we been doing since the 70's in Houston. When there is no pressure Schaub was always really good in his prime because there was nothing to play for but pride... under pressure especially playoffs he has always been what we know he is right now.