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Old 12-26-2013   #108
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Default Re: Clowney, then what?

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Originally Posted by steelbtexan View Post
Using Cutler as a high end placeholder until the young QB's are ready in 2-3 yrs ala Rodgers is a bad idea?

Rushing a rookie QB, be it your dream guy Bridgewater, my guy Mettenberger or Manziel/Bortles seems like a dumb idea. (Carr)

BTW, As I've said, I dont like any of the QB's in this draft. But the ones most likely to succeed are, Mettenberger/Bortles/Bridgewater in that order.

Tell me the difference between Bridgewater and Manziel minus the 2 inches of height. Both are mobile with avg arms. Both improvise alot?
Well first, the amount of money that Cutler will command on the open market means that we will have to sacrifice upgrading other positions because we won't be able to afford to. We're going to have to pay him. You realize that right?

Your grudge against anybody who likes Bridgewater is also pretty comical. Keep that up. It's fun.

I'm on record saying that I think Bridgewater is the top QB in this draft but that doesn't make him my dream guy. That would have been Luck. I've also never said anything about "rushing" a rookie QB. But at some point we will have to draft one. And if we draft one this year it will probably be Teddy, and yes, I think it should be.

As for the difference between Bridgewater and Manziel? Well, Bridgewater plays in a pro style offense where he takes traditional snaps and drops. He makes checks at the line of scrimmage. He is a very accurate passer. He is mentally prepared for the NFL game. He has also been extremely successful and productive in an offense with very little talent besides him. He is a plus athlete, but he uses his athleticism as a secondary asset.

Manziel plays in a Texas Tech/Oklahoma St/Houston/West Virgina retread offense that has never produced a NFL talent at QB. You could correctly argue that he is the most talented QB to come from this system but he is still completely unprepared for the mental part of playing QB in the NFL. He doesn't make traditional drops. He doesn't make checks at the line of scrimmage. He relies on his coaches to do literally all the mental things for him. That won't fly in the NFL. He is accurate in the sense that his completion percentage is high, but he is not exceedingly accurate in terms of putting the ball exactly where it needs to be. He relies a lot on the people around him. He has played with a ton of NFL talent surrounding him. He is a plus athlete, but relies on his athleticism too much, using it as a primary asset. He has made plays from the pocket in his career, but the great majority of his impact plays occur because of his feet, not his arm. That won't cut it in the NFL.
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