View Single Post
Old 11-26-2013   #74
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
 
htownfan32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: College Station, TX
Posts: 3,716
Rep Power: 105102 htownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respectedhtownfan32 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Hey guys, what do you think about Derek Carr..

Quote:
Originally Posted by eriadoc View Post
What Vinny said.



Yep. And I'll tell you what I think - we're going to need another QB after the 2014 draft anyway, because whoever they pick, they're not going to be The One. Franchise QBs aren't available every draft, so don't force it. Of course, everyone here thinks we should force it, so whatever. Personally, I can see at least a couple franchise QB prospects coming out next year, but do not see one at all this year. Looking back:

2013: no true franchise prospect

2012: one real no brainer, and then the overblown hype bout RGIII, who I like but do not buy into long term because of his style. In retrospect, Russell Wilson might be the 2nd best QB from that class long term, but no one tabbed him as a true franchise QB prospect.

2011: Cam Newton was the only no brainer, AFAIC

2010: Sam Bradford was considered to be that pro-ready, franchise QB prospect - perhaps not to the talent level of a guy like Luck, but a guy that could be built around. No one else.

2009: Stafford.

2008: Matt Ryan.

Could go on, but you get the point. There's usually (not always) one consensus franchise caliber QB prospect. They're usually taken in the top few picks. Whether or not they pan out is a different subject. But the overriding point is unless you get a top pick in a year that happens to have one of those, you're either forcing the issue and hoping it pans out, or you're developing one from a later round (Wilson, GSmith, Foles, Cousins, Dalton, etc.). That's not any more ht or miss than the top round picks when you look at bust rates, TBH.

I just don't want to see the team force a pick on a QB just because they have a top pick and they need a QB. If the QB isn't there at the top of the first round (there isn't, IMO), then take BPA and grab a QB in the 2nd-4th round. I feel like McCarron, Murray (before injury), Mettenberger, Carr, and maybe another one or two QBs could turn out to be just as good as Bridgewater from this draft. I don't see any of them turning out to be the next Luck, Manning, or even Matt Ryan, but hey, you never know. I just don't see the reward for the risk of a top pick.

JMO.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, Eriadoc. Personally (and obviously this is JMO) I think Bridgewater can be that guy. Maybe it's the issue of us seeing different stuff on tape. Whatever the cause, I think he IS the franchise guy, and our debate aside this is the job for the new FO (or god forbid the current FO) to decide. Is he the guy? This is a important question that will shape the fate of this franchise. I think he is, but if he's not I will accept it and look elsewhere. The idea of drafting OL and LB talent is a good one. I don't like it as much because it takes a year out of having a QB, and then we're rolling the dice on being able to get Winston or Hogan or Petty (any three or all three of whom could fall off a la Barkley). There is no sure thing in the NFL.

At the end of the day we need a franchise QB. I don't care who it is, I want one. I just think that Bridgewater could be that guy. I could be totally wrong. I'm certainly not rabid about him, but I see the potential there. You don't - and the FO is gonna have to decide for themselves. Let's just hope as fans they make the right choice, whatever it is.
__________________
Do not be too hard, lest you be broken; do not be too soft, lest you be squeezed. - Ali
htownfan32 is offline   Reply With Quote