Originally Posted by Mr teX
It's not that i want to see Schaub come back in & start b/c i dont....he's done for sure. i just find it funny how people are pointing to Keenum's stats like "see, i told you he's good" even though we still only play 1/2 of a game.
When folks tried to point towards stats with Schaub it was "well, this is a qb friendly system..." or "Kubiak/AJ/Foster are making him look good.." etc. etc.
I'm also finding it funny how every excuse in the book is coming out in defense of Keenum but you couldn't get anyone on this board to consider all that stuff for Schaub. I told people when all this started, most times, guys don't fall over the hill right before your eyes like Schaub did this season....there's more to it than just Schaub's poor play.....Now since Case has been starting it's more on:
-the special teams
The reality of it is, Schaub had to deal with all of that too & he likely felt pressure to try to do more than he was capable of at times. & 10 year vet or not, no qb can function under siege like our qb's have had to for basically 2 years now. You add in the awful coaching & outdated scheme & you get "business as usual" in terms of this team's success record wise & terrible 2nd halves.
I say all this to say that you can't have it both ways. Yes, Case isn't turning the ball over in epic fashion like Schaub was towards the end, but he's yet to show that he can overcome the same set of circumstances that ultimately contributed to the demise of Schaub.
Are we sure about that? He hasn't thrown an INT, & while he hasn't thrown a pick 6, that fumble recovered for a TD had the same affect. & while I'm not taken seriously, I've been saying the same thing since week 1. Yeah, it sucks that we've got a QB that needs "everything" to be perfect, but we've built this team to "be" perfect. We've got so much invested on the defensive side of the ball, plus one of the best DCs of the last decade (hopefully our Dick Lebeau, Jim Johnson, Monty Kiffen, Rex Ryan
). 7 pro bowlers on the offensive side of the ball; Andre, Duane, Wade, Myers, OD, Arian, Schaub...... Only Aj has been pulling his weight, since New England (& that's when Schaub can get him the ball).
Seattle had a great 2012 with their rookie QB because their play makers stepped up... their running game, their defense. SF with Frank Gore & Patrick Willis made it easy on Kaepernick. & on paper they don't look anywhere near as good as our squad, but when it mattered the Colts run game & defense came up as big and Andrew Luck looks like "Andrew Luck."
I was hoping the "spark" we were looking for would result in our play-makers making plays, that our #1 defense would look like a #1 defense. That our 1a & 1b running backs would be the envy of the NFL. Or that we'd find our "Victor Cruz" or "T.Y. Hilton" but.... obviously the spark "we" were looking for was a QB that plays lights out in the first half.
I used to give Rex Ryan a hard time, called him a cheer leader. But he, like Pagano, like Bellichick..... are obviously more capable than Kubiak at getting the most out of their players.