Originally Posted by eriadoc
Uhh ... Montana won two Super Bowls before Rice ever came along. He also made three All Pro teams. I think he did OK without Rice. It's fair to wonder what Montana might have been without Walsh, but Montana did it without Rice. And Rich Gannon started his career revival 2 full seasons before Rice came along. He posted great numbers in Oakland well before Rice came along. Rice never played without a QB that wasn't at the top of his game until the final two years of his career.
Great players will play great, but when you get a few of them together, they can elevate each other. AJ has yet to play with a great QB.
Right, but until Jerry came along, he'd never been 1st team all pro. There's a reason Jerry is the undisputed GOAT at his position & there's a reason why cases can be made for several other guys as being better than Montana. Jerry was consistently great for like 17 years & did it with the most variability. 3 different coaches, 3 different qb's pretty much the same results across the board. Never even came close to getting benched for poor play...unlike Montana.
Gannon began posting good numbers........ right about the time Gruden came in...but it wasn't until Rice got there that he got to MVP level...It's also not a coincidence that that was Gannon's best season as a pro. And remember we're talking about a guy well on the backside of his career...Rice was like 40 when he came to the raiders and was still a stud.
Im not saying that Montana wouldn't have still had a great career without Rice, but the case for him as the GOAT begins & ends with SB's. And a large part of the reason he's even in the discussion as the goat qb is b/c of the 2 SB's he won with Rice later in his career.