Originally Posted by IDEXAN
I'm gonna have to do this Jen, I don't want to, but I must to make my point.
I'm guessing you've never played football ? OK, well I have, both in high school and in college, though I assure my collegiate football experience was very unremarkable and the scholastic end of it not much better. But while playing in HS and college, I can't tell you how many incidents I've seen of bullying, varying degrees to be sure. And actually a couple of them were pretty flagrant, pretty nasty situations in other words. It's part of the territory, it's a very, very physical sport played by some really tough guys, certainly at the NFL level. And it's also tough mentally and psychologically because much of it is about being the most macho person in the contest, winning whichever mano-a-mano contest a player might be involved in that's always playing out on the field be it CB vs WR, OT vs edge-rusher, OC vs NT, TE vs LB, etc. In other words, a guy has to have a certain mentality or psyche along with athletic talent, or he's not got what it takes for serious football, certainly not pro ball. And seminars or sensitive training or whatever aren't gonna correct the situation, not for the bully or his victim. Best solution would be to change occupations to office work, or something, anything that's civilized because pro football isn't.
The "I-played-football-and-you-didn't-so-I'm-right-and-you're-wrong card."
Most of us who have never played football know that it's brutal, and that these guys aren't sitting around having a tea party and eating cookies. This is a rough, brutal sport, and it takes a thick skin. We know that.
But, there's a line. And it appears that this Igconito guy may have crossed the line. There is a massive difference between giving rookies crazy hair cuts and making them sing songs in the cafeteria and shaking them down for $15k for vacations and $30k for meals.
Also, rookie salaries aren't what they used to be, and making them pay outrageous bills for the veterans is absurd.
We knock professional athletes for blowing all of their money, but situations like this don't help.
Also: bullying is mental. If Incognito had a crew within the locker room that ganged up on players - and if it was clear that Igcognito's crew were not to be messed with - that doesn't leave a lot of room for someone to refuse to play along.