Originally Posted by leebigeztx
If knew it would come up,then maybe you should've done a better job of getting your facts together. Warren Moon played in a pro style offense and played well in college. Doug williams came out of a swac school. The examples you gave are poor because between joe g with the steelers and warren moon,there were countless black qbs who were told to play another position. Hell,charlie ward wasn't even drafted because teams thought he might play basketball and wasn't sure if it was the offense at fsu.Nevermind the guy had a cannon,was a natural leader,and was very,very, mobile. So when you say warren and doug compare to case,I think your wrong and getting wronger. As soon as warren got thru dominating the cfl,he was the highest paid qb in the nfl.case on the other have had 2 guys recently get drafted playing in the exact same system. Rg3 and kolb both were drafted high playing in that same system. Just like white and heupal played in the same system as bradford but wasn't drafted. Scouts can look past the system and look at talent.
Wow, man, you're a trip. I chose my what I wrote in the service of comparing one undrafted QB to another undrafted QB, not considering Warren Moon's personal axe to grind as a part of the equation...and rightfully so! That you brought up race, even after my words, and yours, as well, speaks against it is where we've gone "wrong." Not knowing where an athlete fits on a pro team has been an issue with all races, not just black. Sh!t, we're talking about the 60s, 70s, and 80s, not the days of Fitz Pollard. I'm saying you took it off course. Doug Williams only came up, on my end, because he was drafted the same year as Moon...and Moon arguably was the greater talent.
Regardless, a number of things in my very first post was tongue in cheek anyway, leading to the main point (and you mentioning RGIII, Heupal, et al, helps). There wouldn't be ay such thing as a first round bust if all the experts knew how to grade perfectly. That includes Moon; that includes Tom Brady; and that includes Ryan Leaf. Start looking at names. There's tons of them, both beautiful and bust...and I'm sure a thousands of what ifs that never got a chance at all coming out of college.
That's the NFL, regardless of what era, color or position.