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Old 10-11-2013   #36
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Default Re: Keenum vs Manziel (Sumlin System)

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Originally Posted by Mr teX View Post
I love ya 76....but i disagree...

Furthermore, all these guys look good when they have time...even Schaub. The ability to make a play when you don't have much time & you're moving around to make a play is the biggest reason people want yates or keenum to get the start. Hell, as it was explained to me by at least 1 person in this very thread, poeple want Keenum to start basically b/c he's more likely to run & rely on his athleticism. I'm not buying that either. Once he gets lit up a few times, he'd likely tone it down.

For the record, I don't think it would make a huge difference either way...1 guy's strength is another's weakness & they're largely are about the same in most other areas. In the end though, both guys will probably perform about the same..........largely b/c they've been under the same coach & indoctrinated in the same system.
There's a difference in the system they played earlier on in their career that makes them seem to be "similar" at the final tally.

Yates played in a WCO at UNC that copied pretty much everything the Texans did (at one time - but Kubiak had expanded from that.)
In this system, Yates' athleticism can be seen on the bootleg or sprint roll-out.

Keenum was a dual-threat QB in highschool, so Art Briles utilize that skills set when Keenum arrived at UH.
Under Sumlin; however, Keenum - even he still played in a zone read spread that RG III ran at Baylor - became more of a pocket passer like Brees.
Keenum is more like Brees than Brady or RG III.
He's aware of what the defense wants to throw at him, and he learns to have an internal clock where he knows when to start avoiding the pass rusher (more naturally than Yates).

In the thread on the main forum, I posted a video about Keenum as a playmaker.
If you watch that video, you might notice that the defense mostly rush three.
With 8 guys dropping back into coverage, there aren't any receiver open early.
Still, the three-man pass rush overwhelmed the Coogs O-line.
Watch it to see that Keenum scrambled but always keep an eye downfield to find a receiver. He didn't panic and started to run.

Both of them make throw on the move, but the cirscumstances are totally different.

When a play breaks down, I prefers Keenum due to his football IQ.
He seems to be able to recognize where pressure is coming from, and how to counter that.
It's totally different from a QB with happy feet like Gabbert, or Carr.
Keenum still remembers where his receivers are supposed to be.
He scramble to an area where he has a chance to make a throw instead of just running wildly.

That natural instinct is something neither Schaub nor Yates posess.

It's part of the "It" factor.
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