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Old 10-09-2013   #28
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Default Re: Keenum vs Manziel (Sumlin System)

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Originally Posted by Mr teX View Post
i'm not touching the manziel part...i've said my piece on that...

as for the 2nd part....If you see that yates' MO is schaub-like....well......there's probably a reason for that.... the system as it is in place now is the only one either of them has ever known in the nfl. more importantly The coaching all 3 have been recieving is also the same. It stands to reason then using common sense, that their "MO's" are likely the same as well.

Everyone's exagerating Case's mobility...like it's Wilson, RG3 mobility...its not. He's slightly faster than Yates....not so much faster than Yates' that his game looks totally different. In any event, i don't see why everyone's acting like yates is a frickin statue back there like Schaub was. He had absolutely no issue scrambling for a 10 yard 1st down in the bengals regular season game as a rookie...& he can move around when he needs to.

Pocket prescence, keenum hasn't been tested against NFL starters to even get a feel for how good his pocket prescence is or isn't...
Where to begin? How about the "system" that Yates ran in college included plays straight from the Texans playbook. He's been running more/less the same offense for years. Case hasn't. He's run Sumlin's far more wide-open (we need you to scramble) offense for more years than he's seen a Texans playbook.

Case is nowhere NEAR as mobile as RG3, Wilson, etc., but it's a BIG step up from Schaub / Yates. The point I was making isn't that Yates is immobile, rather that he's had this "system" drilled into his head so deeply that scrambling is an afterthought. Case is the reverse, he'll move early when the pocket starts breaking down (probably earlier than Kubiak would prefer).
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