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Old 08-14-2013   #127
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Default Re: Post-Preseason Wk 1; Tj or Case?

Actually, OK state is a fantastic comparison. In fact, it is analagous
to Schaub v. Patriots.

In 2008 an Ok. St. team that was not as good as the 2009 Ok. St.
team defeated a Keenum led Houston team 56-37. A pretty resounding
loss.

The very next year, and in stillwater, Keenum was able to turn the
table and pull a massive upset with essentially the same team against
a much more highly-regarded #5 Ok. St. team that had both
Dez Bryant and Kendall Hunter

In fact Ok St. had several players drafted that year and the next:
Bryant, Hunter, Robinson, Okung, Cox. While the Keenum houston team
had exactly 1 -- Onobun who was a fieldgoal block specialist and is
no longer in the league.

You can argue that Ok. St. was overrated, but even after losing
Kendal Hunter to injury and Dez Bryant to NCAA suspension they
still finished #19 in the final BCS while Houston was unranked.

It is highly illustrative of how Keenum could lift a less talented team -
Keeping in mind that 2009 was only the second season Keenum had
under the new offense installed by Sumlin and Holgorsen (yes,
he made a leap in his second year in college just as he has done
with the Texans..)

When Schaub made the statement that you have to "beat the best
to be the best" and then became totally anemic vs. Rodgers/Packers
and Brady/Patriots my gut told me that Matt can let the big stage
get into his head and negatively affect his play.

The second game against Brady went exactly the same way.
After throwing his first pick at midfield the game just got away.
Watching him I just got the feeling that he couldn't get his head
back in the game.

Ok. St. actually came back in the game against Keenum but he didn't
break. He moved the team downfield when he needed to and came
away with a win. The same is true for several other games he had
against ranked teams.

He was particularly deadly to ranked teams in his own conference.
(Tulsa and ECU come to mind). Again he was an underdog and came
away with wins.

This is very un-Schaub/Yates-esqu. I still for the life of me can't
figure out why we can't beat Indy at Indy. Both of our last two
attempts disgust me. 2-14 for the colts, and one was against Yates.
It still stings when I hear it.

TJ

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Originally Posted by JCTexan View Post
Comparing Keenum's game against Oklahoma State to Schaub or Yates in the playoffs is weak. Regardless of BCS rankings, Oklahoma State had a terrible defense and they played in a ton of high scoring games. You're not really comparing apples to apples here.
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