Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Section 353
Originally Posted by Stemp
Let's get all the facts out there....
- In 2012 the Manziels trademark "Johnny Football" and start shutting down people who are profiting using said trademark.
- As part of this process, eBay ends all the auctions and sales of anyone who used "Johnny Football" and goes further by banning many of those sellers for 2 weeks. Obviously this hurts the cash flow of many people who are profiting from college players.
- Rovell reports NCAA is investigating Manziel for accepting a "5 figure fee" ($10,000+) to sign memorabilia.
- 2 days later, Joe Schad is contacted by a "broker" that says Manziel accepted $7,500 and says he has videos showing him signing his memorabilia as is asking for $80K for the videos. These videos were made illegally in CT.
- Schad looks at the videos but they don't show any wrongdoing by Manziel and ESPN declines to purchase the videos. The guy says he's ok with talking to ESPN,but won't talk to the NCAA.
- Schad says in the video he hears the guy offer manziel money to personalize autographs and Manziel declines. No one knows what was actually said so all the descriptions are based on Schad's recollection and interpretation.
- ESPN pushes the narrative that there is a large amount of sequentially numbered authentications by various brokers and that is unique to Manziel items being offered.
- Reports surface that "broker" who spoke with Schad has many arrests against him including dealing drugs.
- Schad now says it has numerous brokers from across the country who say Manziel (or his buddy) accepted money for signatures.
- Reports surface that this broker among others have large amounts of signed items by many big name college players.
- Pictures start to surface from the other big name players signing large amounts of items.
- USC, Louisville and Ohio State say they have investigated and they all clear their players.
- Reports surface that the there are large amounts of sequentially numbered authentications for other college players,which counter ESPN's narrative that this was unique to Manziel.
- Reports surface that the various "brokers", including the one with the video are all connected to each other and they may have placed large bets on Alabama prior to coming forward to ESPN.
- There is still no evidence whatsoever that Manziel accepted money for signing.
- Every accusation made, except by the one arrested for dealing drugs, was made anonymously to ESPN by people in a very shady business and who refuse to speak on the record to anyone.
So what does this all boil down to? Johnny, Clowney, Bridgewater and others have signed large amounts of memorabilia which is being authenticated and sold by "brokers". Were they paid? Maybe but there is no evidence of it. And the accusations are being made by shady people, who may have a motive to screw over Manziel because of what happened on eBay and whose profession it is to get college players to somehow sign a bunch of stuff so they can sell it for a profit, which is against NCAA regulations.
If this were another school's player being targeted, I probably wouldn't care much and certainly wouldn't take as much interest. But yes, I would question Schad and Rovell since they have proven they have little, if any, journalistic integrity and I would question the accusations of shady brokers who hide behind anonymity and an illegally made video that no one can see and that the one person who has seen it says nothing on it shows any wrongdoing.
Stemp, I wish I could rep you for this but, msr.
I bolded some of the key parts for those who don't like to read long posts. This story has gotten so complicated, it is hard to follow.
Here is a letter written by a texags poster that has been sent to various ESPN reporters:
You are one of my favorite reporters. You are fair, you are honest, and you speak your mind. Your colleague Darren Rovell did an irresponsible thing. NCAA investigations are serious. They affect teams, they affect players, they can ruin careers. When the Manziel story came out I did a ton of research into past cases (Miami, Cam Newton, etc.) to see how long approximately an investigation would take. It was rumored that if the NCAA investigation wasn't complete then A&M may not play Manziel.
I researched the biggest NCAA investigations over the last several years and noticed the mention of a Notice of Inquiry (NOI). What is this? The NCAA gets tons of reports every year (ie. I call the NCAA tomorrow and say I saw X player accepting 40k). The NCAA works with the schools compliance department to look into these issues. There are 100s of these type of interactions done throughout the season. It is NEVER referred to as an NCAA investigation. If the NCAA feels that there is a reason to pursue one of these reports they will file a Notice of Inquiry (NOI) with the school identifying the allegation and list of potential interviewees.
From the NCAA site linked below:
Once the staff receives credible information that a potential major violation occurred, an investigation begins with interviews both on and off campus. A common misperception about enforcement staff interviews is that investigators try to intimidate subjects. That doesn’t happen.
Note here that the NCAA doesn't refer to an initial report (the Manziel situation) as an investigation.
A notice of inquiry has not been sent to Texas A&M. The media said Manziel was being investigated. Again, in my research using the word investigation has always been after an NOI has been received by the school.
I know investigative reporting is not your bag, but I urge you to at least pass this along. The Manziel case was made bigger than it was and the media, fans, and the entire college football world was under the impression the NCAA was investigating Texas A&M(ie. had given the school a NOI). Even the lead insider for Aggie sports (Billy Liucci) was under that impression. Please clarify on the national stage or pass along this info to someone who will.
Helpful Links for Story:
Verify no NOI has been sent?
Overview of NCAA Investigation Process?
Clarification of Exact Steps in an NCAA investigation?
Past examples of Notice of Inquiry= investigation and being the media standard?
Cam Newton Case- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/column...ark&id=5767910