Originally Posted by infantrycak
Name me one who is? - seriously. Folks say this kind of stuff all the time but the fact is big games are won by teams. No doubt it is really cool to have an elite QB but even they don't win games by themselves. Roger Staubach didn't become a worse QB nor did Terry Bradshaw become a better QB because Jackie Smith dropped a spot on pass in the end zone. At the end of the day there has to be a Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith and similar surrounding cast involved.
2010 Brees. He had average players all around him he made better. Best player around him was Marques Colston and he only had like 70 receptions for just over 1k.
2005 Brady had Corey Dillon and...? Nothing else. Not even a receiver with 60 receptions or 1k in yards. His best receiver was David Givens.
2004 Brady had nothing. Top back was Antowain Smith with 642 yards. Top receiver Deion Branch with 57 receptions for 803 yards.
It's true teams win games which is why I don't look into quarterback wins as much as the media does. But the poster was most likely speaking to the fact that some quarterbacks raise the level of play of those around them and some need more talent around them to go the next level themselves. Schaub most likely fall is in the latter group.
Not sure this aversion to just admitting Schaub is who he is. It's not like it's a bad thing for him to need more talent around him. It's as if it means he is horrible. It's not. He's just not a top tier guy. Flacco isn't and he won a Superbowl. Why? Because of an influx of more talent around him. Not a bad thing.