Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck
My source was the broadcasts when we played those teams. So you'd have to go back and watch those games and they might not have even been this past year's games.
But if you don't agree that trying to learn how a particular team does something so that you can do it yourself is a form of imitation, then we have a different definition of imitation and we'll have to agree to disagree.
And I disagree that our offense is "quite different" from the 2009 and 2010 offenses. The play-calling might be a little different but the offense is largely the same. What has changed is our blocking scheme. Since Gibbs left, we've updated and upgraded our blocking schemes to employ more pulling and trapping.
So basically there is no source we can refer back to unless we try to figure out which broadcast of the Ravens & Bengals games it was actually mentioned in which by your account could've been any of the years past & not necessarily last years. Well...that sounds like some solid information that we can all take to the bank.
Once again, I stand by my statement that just because a team adopts the ZBS scheme in whole or in parts does not mean that that team is "imitating" the Texans & adopting their offensive playbook or offensive approach. Which in my opinion is "imitation". Merely studying a team to learn how to utilize a scheme is researching IMO. The Texans are hardly the inventors of the ZBS, so not all of whom adopt it are Texan imitators IMO.
Here's some food for thought:
Texans NFL Offensive Ranks (NFL.com)
2009- Passing #1 Rushing #30
2010- Passing #4 Rushing #7
2011- Passing #8 Rushing #2
2012- Passing #11 Rushing #8
Now maybe you don't see a difference in the offensive approach, but it's pretty clear that in 2009 that the Texans were very pass heavy & as the years have gone by, & the emergence of Arian, the transition has gone from pass heavy to balanced in 2010 & then favoring the run in 2011 & 2012. So there has obviously been a transition from pass to run & the rankings seem to reflect it. Granted the playbook may contain plays that have been there since 2009, but which ones are utilized more often seems to have changed & studying the Texans offense in 2009 vs 2012 gives me reason to believe that the play calling, pass vs rush, would yield different results between the 2 yrs. The offensive rankings seem to agree.
Needless to say, I agree that we can agree to disagree on most of these items.