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Default Re: Doppelmock Version 6.0: Post Compensatory Pick Announcement Draft

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Originally Posted by Vinny View Post
I really like Manuel and would love to snap him up if he was there when we pick. He'd have a chance to watch for a year as the Schaub era plays out. He's a little raw but his size, arm, and mobility are everything you want in a qb.
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Originally Posted by Doppelganger View Post
I just don't like the guy as a starting QB. He reminds me too much of a Jason Campebell (at best) or Terrell Pyror (at worst) prospect. He is not a good passer. He makes many poor decision especially when things become quick. He lacks field vision. He tends to lock onto targets rather than work through progressions. He is too quick to run. His accuracy is iffy. He struggled against quality NFL defenses(like Florida).
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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole View Post
I don't get why anyone would like him outside of his physical ability. I was very excited for him to start for the Noles, but then reality crept in. Reality showed that Manuel couldn't make reads fast enough and was essentially afraid to make decisions. Take off and run? Throw to the post? The out? Dump off to the RB? Too many options for Manuel. He can't decide consistently enough and he can't read a defense to help him make a decision.
Here's a link to a NFL Network discussion on Manuel. Casserly takes the side of Doppelganger & TexansSeminole, that Manuel is not a 1st round QB. Former Bronco GM Ted Sundquist makes Vinny's case that Manuel is a 1st round QB, and has what a team is looking for in a QB in today's NFL.

I can see both sides. I watched every pass and run from Manuel in the 2011 bowl games versus Notre Dame (a good college defense). The cons were that Manuel didn't really feel the rush and made some poor decisions with the ball (that didn't cost him, fortunately). The pros were that he showed he could make every throw and NFL QB needs to make, and kept his poise and led the team to a comeback win.

Right now, I don't think Manuel is as good as Matt Barkley. By 2015, Manuel could very well be better than Barkley. As Sundquist pointed out, Manuel didn't have the weapons around him that QBs like Geno Smith, Tyler Bray, and Barkley had. In that Notre Dame bowl game, he had several freshman o-lineman blocking for him. Put Manuel in that West Virginia or USC offense, and maybe he's the one getting top 10 consideration.

BTW, Texan GM Rick Smith tutored under Sundquist in Denver, so it wouldn't be surprising if he (and Kubiak) evaluated Manuel in a similar fashion. And even if the Texans are not considering him with their pick at #27, it would be wise to bring Manuel in for an interview. There aren't an teams behind the Texans in the 1st round that are likely to go QB with their pick. And if the Texans want to generate interest for teams like the Eagles, Cards, or Jets to trade up, showing interest in E.J. would be the smart move.
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