Originally Posted by Maddict5
ask the redskins and cowboys how that strategy worked out for them
Originally Posted by TexanBacker93
Under the bad calls:
3&4. Wasn't this what the Redskins and Cowboys were punished for? I'm pretty certain teams were told they couldn't front load contracts for the uncapped year without penalty.
I don't think this point is well understood, so let me explain it better. The two teams hit by the league for overspending were the Redskins and Cowboys. The two teams that were not given additional capspace due to being near the spending limit were the Saints and Raiders. The other 28 teams were given 1.6 million in additional capspace for 2012 or 2013 in order to make things "even" among the teams.
The league negotiated somewhere in the range of 145 million as the cap point for the year, and all teams above it would be penalized an amount of the overage, while the teams below it were given a measly 1.6 million in additional cap space. The Texans only spent 123 million against the cap that year, while resigning Demeco Ryans to a 48 million dollar deal, and AJ to a 73.5m dollar total contract. Instead of giving out signing bonuses that we are still paying off through 2016, they could have given large roster bonuses or frontloaded 2010 base salaries, which would have been absorbed by the 2010 cap.
The Texans missed out on 20+ million in capspace that year, because they wanted to run the team like there was a cap. That's on Rick, for not structuring legitimate contract extensions into that year. There were 15 other teams that decided to spend more than the Texans that year, 8 of which were in the playoffs that year. 3 of those teams played in their conference championships in 2010, and one went on to win the Super Bowl (Packers). I'm not saying it's all about the money, but it certainly helps.
As for what happened to the Cowboys and Redskins, I don't think it's fair to say they truly "lost capspace". Instead, they overspent in 2010 and had some of it added their 2011 and 2012 caps. They took full advantage of the uncapped year, and were able to offload a lot of future costs into it. Dallas lost 10 million over 2011/12. They spent 166.5 million in 2010, and could have spent up to 115m in 2011 and 115.6m 2012. They could have spent a total of 397.1 million over 3 years or 132.36 million a year average. Now I know they didn't spend exactly that much, but they had the extra cap space which is a competitive advantage.
For the Redskins they spent 178.2m in 2010, and lost 18m in the other years. So their 3 year max spending limit was: 178.2m + 102m + 102.6m = 382.8 / 3 years = 127.6m average.
Saints: 145 + 120 + 120.6 = 385.6 / 3 = 128.53
Packers: 135.3+120+120.6+1.6 = 377.5 / 3 = 125.83
Texans: 123.1 + 120 + 120.6 + 1.6 = 365.3 / 3 = 121.76
(note: with the cap rollover change in the new CBA, total capspace in 2011 and beyond is what matters, not the actual amount spent)
Those teams were still exceeding the cap of 120 million a year, while the Texans spent 123 million in 2010. So the Cowboys got an extra 30 million in total cap space, while others got less than that, but still more than the Texans. The Cowboys used that space to use to pay guys like Miles Austin and Demarcus Ware, who they knew they were going to keep. The Texans declined to pay guys like Ryans and AJ who were cornerstone players at the time, and they missed out on the extra capspace.
While many Cowboys and Redskin fans will claim they got shafted in this ordeal, the fact is their teams still had the most money to work with over the 3 year span affected by these decisions. Whether they spent it wisely is a whole different discussion, but the fact remains the Texans missed out on at least 20 million dollars in capspace which could have been useful today.