Originally Posted by 76Texan
Once again, looking at a few individual numbers, especially at WR, is for fantasy football owners.
If you want to look at number of catches, at least you have to know many pass attempts a team has. A #2 receiver on a team that throws more "should have" more opportunities to catch the ball.
A team with a great #1 receiver normally target those guys more.
Then you have to look at the philosophy of teams; some look for their TEs more than others; some like to take more shots downfield (at the risk of a lower completion rate and more INTs.)
If you look at Yd per Route Ran, don't forget that Fitzgerald's number is really close to Walter; that doesn't mean that he suck, especially for a #1 receiver.
You may not care for Walter's blocking ability, but other guys on the team do.
They know it gives them the chance to go long.
A number that people seems to ignore is the percentage of deep targets; Walter actually had a higher percentage than AJ last year.
If you look at the pass distribution since Kubiak has been here, Walter's role has been very steady. He plays his role very well. He would get more targets if AJ or OD goes out, things like that.
The dollar value the Texans put on him may look "out of whack" to us fans.
Personally, I had stated before the season started that I hope to see Jean and Posey get involved, but neither showed up consistently. Martin, as the slot guy, was also inconsistent.
None of these guys have done anything remotely close to push Walter down the depth chart.
It's up to Jean and Posey to up their game, but with the setback to Posey, it's not going to be easy.
The good thing is that this upcoming draft class is quite deep at receivers.
With the recent run at the position the last few years (it's going to be less of a need overall in the league), it might be the time for the Texans to look for a receiver or two in the next few drafts.
Individual stats primarily for fantasy football. Now that is laughable to say the least because I'm sure stats are something that is evaluated by many when evaluating players & their worth for contract purposes & so forth. Ignoring stats would be foolish because they do tend to paint the picture of an individuals production even when its the production or lack thereof of another individual on the team.
Which leads me into your gross comparison of Fitzgerald & Walter. It disgusts me that you even suggested that the 2 are even close to each other to be honest, but once again I understand the desperation in the defense of Walter. While Fitzgerald's stats have not been anything spectacular of late we can all reference the multiple QB's STATS that have started for the Cardinals & easily see where the problem lies. So your comparison is skewed to say the least. A wr w/ no legitimate QB vs a wr w/ no legitimate seperation skills who's play has REGRESSED compared to when he 1st arrived, not maintained as you falsely claimed, is far from being accurately portrayed.
Blaming the scheme is just another weak attempt at trying to mask the issue. Walter is a WR. They are expected to make plays. He cannot based on his physical attributes or lack thereof. The reason the TE's are involved are because they are finding openings that Walter simply cannot. When a QB looks at the #1 wr & then the 2 TE's to make plays then there is a problem. I truly doubt the offense is geared to look over the #2 wr as often as it happens. That can easily be proven because when Kubiak was the OC in Denver they had Ed McCafferey & Rod Smith who were very active in the offense. Which proves his system Feb & has incorporated the #2 wr as a receiving option & not only as a blocking option. So its not the system that is limiting Walter, it is Walter limiting the system imo.
Its not that I don't care that Walter can block, its that I don't overly glorify his blocking as many others do in hopes of increasing his value in others eyes. I appreciate that they ALL seem to be able to block fairly adequately because none have been criticised for not being able to block. In other words, its nothing special when they all can do it & I'm sure the teammates appreciate all of them for that.
We can at least agree that there are some decent prospects at wr in the draft. Let's just hope they address it w/ a player who is somewhat prepared to play day 1 as opposed to waiting nearly the full regular season before getting them in there to help this team.