[Texecutioner]

I don't see how this has anything to do with Cleveland at this point. Cleveland has had all types of years to get going again. Baltimore Ravens is a completely different franchise at this point just like the Oilers and the Titans are. Nothing the Titans do is of any consequence to me as an old Oilers fan, because the Oilers died and the Titans were created. Same with the Ravens. Hell Model isn't even alive anymore either. If the Browns fans want to feel pitty for themselves, then they deserve to be where they are at. Their franchise sucks because of their team's management. The Baltimore Ravens success isn't hindering them a bit.