Originally Posted by Double Barrel
lmao @ "quarterbacks are escorted down the field in their own personal Ref protected bubbles"
Classic Vinnyism, man!
We see this "running QB" trend pop up in the NFL every 10 years or so, like it's something new. I remember when Vick, McNabb, and Culpepper were predicted to be the "new breed" and I read many articles that unequivocally stated that the age of the pocket passer was quickly coming to an end.
Then Brady and Manning had HoF careers that basically told all the "experts" to STFU.
Now we are seeing the hype cycle renew itself with these young guys.
The rules in the NFL are certainly being tilted to favor offenses these days, and teams that will consistently find success will find ways to exploit these rules to their advantage.
However, I think these 'new' proto-type QBs will still have to evolve into capable passers simply because of the oft-proved tendency that age slows everyone down to some extent. Either through injury or natural decline, these cats will have to win early in their careers as "running QBs" because the NFL has a way of weeding out QBs who cannot consistently read defenses and make plays from the pocket at some point in their careers.
The NFL figures gimmicks out. The run & shoot never lasted, the wildcat is now considered trick, and with running QBs, the NFL figured out how to isolate them and forced them to make plays with their arms.
I think these younger QBs have some tools not available to previous running QBs. They have grown up learning advanced systems and techniques much earlier in life than previous generations, so I think their ceiling could be higher in terms of potential. But they will have to still learn how to read defenses and make the passes for a time when their legs eventually wear out and cannot be their primary weapon.
This. I've heard the claims too that insert X qb is going to change the way the QB position is played. Haven't seen it full-time yet.
I think that's a big Reason this year Cam Newton had early problems. Teams were better prepared for the running element of his game.
I said it early on in the draft RG3 is going to have a spectacular rookie campaign, but the real test is going to be seen next year and if his body can handle the beating that it took this year. He's also going to have to bounce back from major knee surgery to boot now.
To me, Aaron Rodgers is pretty much what you want in a prototypical QB right now. Guy has a quick release, tall enough to see over the line and while his running game doesn't give defenses Cam or RG3 nightmares; he can tuck the ball then run for a first down and throws very accurately on the move.
I don't think we NEED a mobile QB on the level of RG3 or CAm, but closer to the mold of Rodgers. Just a guy who can avoid pressure in the pocket, can throw accurately on the move, and I'd really like a stronger arm to get the ball into tighter windows.
Ugh on the Manziel love. Congrats on the first season, now go repeat it with the huge bullseye that the Heisman gave him. I think you're going to see a lot more QB spying on him next year by LBers and teams are going to dare him to throw more often as opposed to let him run free like he was able to this year.