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Default Re: What will it take to make you feel better about this team?

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I did say a win would be great.
True. But nothing is going to convince McNair to move on from Gary. Nothing is going to convince Kubiak to move on from Schaub. Not a but whup'n of any kind.

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I guess I think MS(for sure) and GK (possibly) are not the ones to get the Texans to a Super Bowl win.

I guess I don't want to continue as is(in limbo) when I think there is no realistic hope to be a Super Bowl winner.
I didn't "really" get excited about the Texans until they hired Kubiak, for two reasons
  1. I was relieved to see that McNair understood something had to change & did something.

    I liked the Capers hire, I didn't think Capers was the "main" problem. I think firing Capers & keeping Caserly was the wrong move. But, it was something.

    I didn't like that Capers continued to start Carr (that was his biggest problem) & I always felt that decision was above his pay-grade. Kubiak coming in being hamstrung by that same mistake was evidence of such.
  2. I've always loved the Denver offense; well, since I can remember

The Colts with Manning was also another favorite of mine, as was the Rams greatest show on turf. But the Denver offense "seemed" more repeatable & less dependent on that once in a lifetime HOF QB.
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We extended MS (huge mistake) and GK before the season and the only way a change will happen under these conditions is if it is OBVIOUS OBVIOUS to all what our shortcomings are.
Before Kubiak's first season I had no idea if he could do the job. After his first season, I knew he was in over his head; at least on gameday.

But two things impressed me.
  1. The deal with the devil to start Carr appeared to have caveats attached

    Yeah, he had to start Carr, but if not for a freak injury (kinda funny how that phrase continues to haunt us) Carr would not have finished 2006 as our starting QB. I've seen coaches go down with the ship doing what the owner wants. This case, it looked (to me anyway) that Kubiak was able to negotiate a way out. I liked that.
  2. I've never seen anyone with that much control over his locker room

    Bill Bellichick controls his locker room, but it's different. With Bellichick, iron hands them, shuts the door, & zips the lips. For Gary's first 2 or three years it was like everyone repeated word for word what Gary told them. They bought his message, they "believed" what he was telling them. Top to bottom, GM to waterboy. They said what Kubiak said & that was impressive to me.


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If you do not agree with me on MS and GK or if your goal is just to make the playoffs then I understand completely why you think my last statement in my previous post is idiotic.
It's not that I don't agree with you, it's that I don't know. I still see Kubiak growing as a head coach & I still see Schaub growing as a QB. It sucks that is the way it is. But that's the way it goes. Bellichick was not the guy we see today when he took over in New England. He lucked into Brady & Viniterri but he's grown & changed as the years have gone by. His offense is totally different than what it was back then. His defense is totally different, the way he approaches the game..... all different. I believe those changes happened because they had to. He learned, adapted, and became the HC he is now.

Brady has changed as well. He's a much better QB than he was in 2002.

Matt's a 10 year veteran & shouldn't be "learning" anymore, he is who he is. I agree. But when I say he's still "growing" I mean he's learning how to handle success & expectations. That's the only area I see that he is severely lacking. All that other stuff can be overcame if he'd just play his game & not let "prime-time" & huge expectations get to him.

I'll try an analogy;
Eddie Murphy is funny. People tell him he's funny all the time. He's been called the funniest man alive many many times, won all kinds of awards, etc, etc.... but he comes out & he's just himself, & he's still funny.... because he's funny.

Tracey Morgan isn't funny. I get the feeling that someone told him one day that he was funny & he's spent the rest of his life "trying" to be funny. So he still gets a laugh every now & then, because he's trying to be funny. But it's not natural, like it is with Richard Pryor, or Adam Sandler.

I think if Matt would quit "trying" to be a great QB & just be the best QB he can be, all that other stuff would work itself out. I've seen him play at a high level (2009, we've seen spurts in 2010 & 2011), he was great in Denver. Not good, great. So I know it's in him.


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No offense taken.

I hope I eat my words after the NE game.
I meant no offense, but I hope you do eat your words.
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