Originally Posted by eriadoc
It will continue to be moved, but your reasoning is dead wrong. The reason is actually much simpler - we want a Super Bowl. When you're a 2-14 team, the target is to improve. When you're an 8-8 team, the target becomes having a winning record and maybe making the payoffs. When you've made the playoffs, the target becomes winning a Super Bowl. If you seriously think your team is a Super Bowl contender, then you expect to see certain indicators to that effect. Winning games against elite competition is one such indicator. Losing those games tends to indicate that your team will lose big games in the playoffs. Hence the frustration.
Originally Posted by Double Barrel
If you are satisfied with a great regular season team, then this is a good question.
Some of us want more than just a great regular season team. Some of us recognize that the regular season is merely a means to an end.
Great teams are forged in the playoffs against other great teams. So far, our team does not look like they are quite ready to compete at that level.
I love me some 11-2 like anyone, but the difference is that I'm not celebrating the record. Their record will be 0-0 come January, and all that regular season stuff was just jockeying for position.
These are both good posts and worth discussing. The frustration here comes from, "we're good at beating mediocre to bad teams, we can't beat elite teams".
Which, from the two games this season, seems accurate. If we take the two games against Green Bay and against New England in a vaccuum, all indications are that this team will not succeed in the playoffs against elite caliber teams.
But really, if we're judging our team for playoff success/failure, it's not fair to judge them based on regular season success/failure, is it? We've seen recent Super Bowl winners have regular season mediocrity, yet post-season dominance. How can we extrapolate this to the playoffs when we've seen a grand total of ONE playoff run with Kubiak with a backup quarterback.
If we go to the playoffs this year and lay an egg, it'll be painful. If we go to the playoffs the following year and lay another egg, it's time for change.
Until then, if our goal is the Super Bowl, do you guys really think a head coaching change is the quickest way to that end? The moaning about Kubiak confuses me sometimes about whether people want change or they're just complaining for the sake of complaining.