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Old 05-24-2012   #396
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Default Re: 3rd Round DeVier Posey WR Ohio State

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Originally Posted by Corrosion View Post
The point is they have spent very few resources in the WR position since Kubiak took over .... Honestly they didnt do much to fill the position in the Capers / Casserly era either.

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Hard to say what he can and cant do with WR's when he hasnt really used any valuable resources on premium talent mainly because he was handed a roster lacking talent at so many positions.
This is a pretty good point.

Let's go back a bit further. People always talk about how Kubiak/Shanahan:
1) Don't normally draft linemen early because they have odd requirements for the ZBS.
2) Don't normally draft RBs early because the system works with guys that are available later

Do they do the same thing with WRs?

First off, who were the Bronco's receivers during Kubiak's time?

He inherited Anthony Miller (5'11", 190#), 1st round pick of the Chargers in 88) and Mike Pritchard (5'10#, 188#), 1st round pick of the Falcons in 1991. Those were his guys in 1995, his first year there. But he brought Ed McCaffrey from San Francisco (6'5#, 215#) who'd originally been drafted by the Giants in the 3rd round in 1991. McCaffrey became a fixture in Denver. Also in 1995, the Bronco's picked up an UDFA named Rod Smith (6', 200#) who would have an HOF career with Kubiak. He didn't start until his 3rd year with the team and then was a perennial pro bowler. Ed Kennison (6'1", 201#), a #1 pick by the Rams, took over for McCaffrey when he was injured in 2001. But McCaffrey eventually lost his pick to Denver 1st round pick, Ashley LeLie (6' 3", 200#). LeLie had a couple of very good seasons under Kubiak, the best being a 54 catch/1084 yard season. But the wheels fell off when Kubiak left. He bounced around and was never able to regain his form.

As to who the Bronco's drafted as WRs... it's a load of late round crap and even when they drafted in the early rounds, the guys were scrubs.

5 - Patrick Jeffers, 6'3", 217#, 5 year marginal career
1 - Marcus Nash, 6'3#, 195#, 1 year career and busted
3 - Travis McGriff, 5' 8#, 185#, 3 years and 5 receptions
6 - Chad Plummer, 6'3", 223#, 2 years and no stats
3 - Chris Cole, 6', 195#, 3 years, 12 catches
5 - Muneer Moore, didn't make it from Richmond
7 - Leroy Fields, didn't make it from Jackson State
6 - Kevin Kasper, 6'1", 197#, 5 years, marginal player
1 - Ashley Lelie, 6'3", 200#, 7 years and a starter
5 - Herb Haygood, 5' 11", 193#, 1 year
5 - Adrian Madise, 5' 11", 215#, 1 year
2 - Darius Watts, 6'2", 190#, 2 years, marginal player
6 - Triandos Luke, 5'10", 190#, 1 year and 6 receptions

Not a great track record... until you throw Rod Smith into the mix.

I wonder how much input Kubiak had into this? I think he's drafted WR better here than Denver did when he was there.
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