Originally Posted by Vinny
no, Mario got paid to play football - something your son does. He isn't paid to hurt people on purpose. I played football too but I'd be shocked that some coach told a player to hurt me on purpose. Good clean hard hits are one thing, but having the people running the league telling you to give some guy a concussion or break a leg is thug behavior and evil if you ask me. I'd quote the rest of your post but I'm a fan of big hits and physical play too...but I am a fan of clean football, not dirty thug-like behavior being condoned by the people in charge (so that is all I take to task in your post). If a few guys go over the top that's one thing and you can't stop that, but once the people in charge cross the line and let it be known that the league is just another version of throwing Christians to the Lions I'm out...I'm not a fan of intentional pain and suffering. There is enough of that with clean play and a few guys pushing the envelope too far.
Originally Posted by Double Barrel
I agree with you in principle, man, which is why I said it's a fine line between the two.
As far as hurting people on purpose, I have always understood that there is a difference between hurting someone and injuring someone. I think most defenders want to hurt someone. I do not think most of them want to injure another player.
Old school quotes not really applicable but funny anyway:
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault."
~ Jack Tatum
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was important – like a league game."
~ Dick Butkus
We were always told "football isn't a contact sport, it's a collision sport..."
People get hurt and injured in collisions...
I never set out to injur someone, but I damn sure wanted to hurt folks. I wanted to hit people so hard that they had to get out of the game. I didn't want to break bones or anything like that and I never even thought about concsussions until someone got one....
But I did want to knock the crap out of folks and see them slow to get up....
If they were injured so be it...If they took the hits and kept getting back up, so be it...