Originally Posted by bah007
I'm not going to disagree with you there. But there is a track record for guys who are taken really high only because of their athleticism, with no on field production to back it up. And that track record isn't good at all.
It's true that poor coaching can have an effect on players. Hell, we've seen it here. But it's also true that if a guy is an absolutely phenomenal talent, he can usually be a productive player regardless of coaching. Especially when you consider that the level of competition he was playing against isn't even in his league.
Think about it. Poe is probably 35-40 lbs bigger than anybody that ever tried to block him. But not only that, he is twice as strong, twice as quick, and twice as fast as the best lineman he has ever faced. In that situation, coaching shouldn't be too big of a detriment.
I'm not saying that Poe will absolutely, 100% be a bust. But I am predicting it. People seem to think that there is a correlation between 40 times, bench press, and football ability. But there isn't.
I've watched a little bit of Poe and from what I've seen teams did everything they could to stay away from him. If anyone was getting doubled it was him. He didn't show a lack of effort or hustle. He is explosive off the ball and very tough to block.
He can improve his recognition and he can improve on re-routing to the ball carrier. Too often he explodes off the line, has the OL beat but fails to re-adjust and is pushed away.
But the guy is a football player. Their secondary was not very good at all. It looked like the Texans old pass defense.
I think if Poe goes to the right situation with a good defensive coaching staff they are going to develop him into a very good DT. I think he is can develop into the must double team type of guy.
I think if you put Poe in the middle of this defense we'd give O-lines nightmares thinking about how they would stop us.
You keep talkin about "lack of production" but there can be reasons for that. Especially as a DT....
What exactly is it that you don't like about how he actually plays?