Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck
Yes, you are creating a straw man argument. You're saying that by mentioning Marino, I'm saying Schaub is as good as he is. That's not what I did. That's a classic straw man argument: creating things that someone didn't say so you can argue against it. That's just dishonest.
In your reality, Quarterbacks who win Superbowls are better quarterbacks than those who don't. And that is wrong. Quarterbacks don't win Super Bowls, teams do. That was true in the 70's and it's still true today.
Again, you are just using self serving statements to try and prove your point.
Never did I say winning a Super Bowl automatically makes you a better QB than everybody else. Where did I say that? I'd challenge you to show me where I said that, but you can't because I never said that. (And you are accuse me of creating a straw man argument, lol). However winning a Superbowl does add to a QBs reputation, especially in this day and age. And yes, a QB is the most important part of the equation in winning a Superbowl. Unless you have those rare years where a defense can do it like the aforementioned Bears, Ravens, and Bucs did. That is the only time a game manager can win a Super Bowl.
What I said, and I'll repeat it again so that maybe it can stick this time, is that good QBs have their teams in playoff contention year in and year out. They have an "IT" factor. They win division titles. They get into the playoffs. Sometimes they have to lift their team up and win a game on their own. They are play makers. They win playoff games. They consistently put up stats. They pass the eye test.... And some of them win Super Bowls.