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Old 05-29-2009   #23
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Default Re: Sausage King "Making it Rain"

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If you think this has nothing to do with his reputation in the locker room then you have no idea about sports. Guys like TO, Plaxico and VY are not leaders.
He was a great leader all through college and HS, so that isn't true and you don't even know what you're talking about. A ton of his team mates raved about what a great leader he was in his first season where he won ROTY. Then he struggled in year 2 and 3 and it wasn't until year 3 (last season) where his leadership came into question and yes, he acted like a whiney baby and got benched for it.

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Payton, Brady and Brees are leaders because of how they carry themselves on and off the field. It is like when we had YKW, Mr Last in, first out. Now we have Schaub who is first in and last out of the film room. Same goes for the other QBs I just mentioned. VY is no where near that type of guy and never will be.
Really?? Well he was known as being that type of guy until the mid point of his 2nd season in the pros and in college he was known for being a leader and that was his biggest attribute. He struggled and got a reality check, and is on the bench for it. Get over it. There hasn't been one thing in this off season that has said that he is doing the wrong things.



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There is nothing out there that suggest VY is not doing everything he's been asked to do?
There is nothing out there to suggest that RIGHT NOW he currently isn't. You're using pure speculation to come up with this assertion because you "want" him to fail.

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How about when he was drafted, he was expected to become the face of the franchise and be the leader of the team. How is that working out for him?
That is all irrelevant to NOW. You're trying to use a bunch of old stuff to suggest that he's out there jacking around and not doing what he is supposed to do right now. When they're is some information out there saying that he isn't doing what he is asked to do from his coaches, then you can make this claim, but until then you're making things up and have nothing to back it up.

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So far all he has done is cry about being Booed, got hurt then disappeared with a gun and then he has his mommy come running to his defense. Yeah the exact kind of guy only PeeWee Herman would follow.
Yes, that is true, and that was last season. You're still stuck in the past. Get over it. The guy is a 2nd string QB now, and guys like you that have dreams of him committing suicide and becoming a total failure in life have gotten your wish. He isn't a starter and he got embarrassed last season. No one has denied that. But "right now" there is nothing out there from any reports suggesting that he has been slacking off. I know that you desperately "want" there to be, but right now you've got nothing.

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Can you please provide links of these stories that says he is doing everything asked of him.
If there isn't anything negative out there, then there is no reason for me or anyone else to speculate that he's gone off the wagon or ticking his coches and team mates off. There doesn't need to be an article on every NFL player saying that they are doing great to suggest that they are dong what they are supposed to do. I don't see you running around making these claims about Jake Delhome or David Garrard. I wonder why that is? Maybe because you despise VY like 50 other posters do on this board and "want" him to suffer. I think that's the case here.

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I have never seen one that says he is doing anything other than him making an ass of himself or quotes saying that he believes the QB position is up for grabs which is the exact opposite of what Fisher is saying.
Again, you're spinning his words saying that he wants to compete for the position and that he feels that it's up for grabs into him acting like a jerk. Sorry, but just because you hate the guy, I'm not naive enough to buy into your "spin" rhetoric.

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You think there is nothing wrong with what VY does or what Romo did is because you have never been in an environment where your actions reflect on a lot of other people. It does not matter that Romo went their to relax, he has yet to win a single playoff game and so the public percetion is not going to be kind to him. It is not what the media makes people think, on this story they reported it and the talk shows lit up with bad publicity for Romo, because he is the quarterback of the dallas cowboys.
Hey, you can be a media puppet all that you want and "buy" every little story they run with all that you want. I'll make my own perceptions. I guess you probably also believe that the Cowboys lost every game that Simpson attended that season where they said the Cowboys couldn't win if she attended the game, and that was a "total lie" by the media, but hey most people buy everything the media says without researching it for themselves. If you think ESPN gives you the full truth on just about everything, then you're mistaken bro.

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I am basically self employed now, after buying into a distributorship. If I do something at a Bike Rally it reflects on me my part of the company and the company as a whole. If I do something completely outrageous and it looks bad on the company I can have my distributorship yanked. It is called a character clause.
Well that may be true, but I'm not some guy living in the 60's where I think going to night clubs is "bad" and that you can't do that in your regular life and still be a good citezen. When VY is out there breaking the law, or beating someone up, or drinking and driving, then come talk to me.

And personally I don't know why I even bothered commenting on this subject when there are about 50 people that hate the guy so badly that there is no way they would ever give him credit for anything and are so blood thirsty to see VY completely fall and have a nervous break down. I'm not sure why I ever thought that I would get an objective discussion here. It's impossible if it involves VY on this board. Yeah, he screwed up and is a back up now, so may of you should be happy and you can thank the football gods and continue to roast him into an oblivion every time he sneezes or coughs. But right now, there isn't anything out there that suggests that he's been doing the wrong things as far as on the football field and with his coaches, so go ahead and turn this thread into another "Roast thread" if you want, but holler back at me when they're is actually something to talk about.

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