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Insideop 04-29-2013 09:10 PM

Post Draft Roster
 
OK, the Draft is over and the Mini Camps and OTA's are about to start. I'm already looking forward and trying to guess the 53 man the Roster. Let's get started!

Offense
QB's (2) Matt Schaub, T.J. Yates

WR's (6) A. Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins (R), LeStar Jean, Kevin Martin, Alan Bonner (R), Jeff Maehl or (UDFA)

TE's (3) Owen Daniels, Garrett Graham, Phillip Supernaw or Ryan Griffin (R)

RB's (3) Arian Foster, Ben Tate, (UDFA)

FB's (2) Greg Jones, Tyler Clutts

OT's (4) Duane Brown, Ryan Harris, Derek Newton (Health ?),
Brennan Williams (R)

OC (1) Chris Myers

OG (4) Wade Smith, Brandon Brooks, Ben Jones (Will also be backup Center), David Quessenberry (R)

Total Offensive Players 25

Defense
DE's (4) Antonio Smith, J.J. Watt, Jared Crick, Tim Jamison

NT's (3) Earl Mitchell, Terrell McClain, Chris Jones (R)

OLB's (5) Whitney Mercilus, Bryan Braman, Brooks Reed (Will probably play ILB a little to a lot.), Sam Montgomery (R), Trevardo Williams (R)

ILB's (3) Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Tim Dobbins

CB's (5) Kareem Jackson, Johnathan Joseph, Brice McCain, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael

S's (5) Ed Reed, Daniel Manning, D.J. Swearinger (R), Shiloh Keo, Eddie Pleasant

Total Defensive Players 25

Special Teams
K's (1) Randy Bullock

P's (1) Shane Lechler

LS's (1) Jon Weeks

Total Special Teams Players 3

PUP (1) DeVier Posey (Depending on Posey's injury he could go on IR.)

As far as the Practice Squad I don't have a feel for the players yet, but Ryan Griffin could be on it if he can't beat out Supernaw and Chris Jones could also be on it if they decide to go with only 2 NT's. They will probably keep another of the 4 UDFA RB's they have and probably a WR or 2 as well as another LBer. It's hard to pin down who will make it which should make for a lot of fun during the preseason.

Well, there it is. What do you think?

Rey 04-29-2013 09:15 PM

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I hope someone can beat Keo out...

Also I don't think mahael makes the team unless there is injury or unless he beats out LeStar Jean. I think the Griffen, the TE we drafted makes the team and I think Roc Carmichael is going to be in for a he'll of a battle for that last cb spot.

Is that 53 players?

Insideop 04-29-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2159410)
I hope someone can beat Keo out...

Ha ha ha! I knew that was coming. If they only go with 4 Safeties he could be beaten out by Pleasant.

keyser 04-29-2013 09:48 PM

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I think you're mostly on target. It should be interesting, since I think a lot of those positions are open to competition at the bottom. Here are the things I'm thinking:
- I think they keep 3 QBs, though we'll see how they look in preseason.
- Not sure they keep 6 WRs. There are only 2 (AJ, Hopkins) that I see as sure keepers (as well as Posey) - I could see any of the others not making the roster, and so I'm not sure that 4 of them will stick. I would not be surprised to see them keep only 5, with a couple more on the PS. If they expect Posey back, and if it works (I forget the rules), I wouldn't be surprised to see 6, with that 6th one going to the PS when Posey returns.
- I could see 4 TEs and only 1 FB (especially if they go with only 5 WR)
- Would be a little surprised at 3 NTs, and would think they might drop down to 2. In place, I'd guess either some other LB prospect (still feels way too thin at ILB), a return specialist (might be the extra DB or WR), or that 3rd QB.
- I'd like to see Keo replaced, but they seem to like him, so he'll probably be there. But, I think we might lose a safety (Pleasant) in favor of another CB or a returner, if we don't lose one of the NTs.

The Pencil Neck 04-29-2013 09:56 PM

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There are still a lot of moves to be made. I expect some more vets to be picked up. But with what we've got...

Offense: 24

QB - Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB - Foster, Tate, Winn
FB - Jones, Clutz
WR - AJ, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Bonner
TE - Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OL - Brown, Williams, Harris, Quessenberry, Brooks, Jones, Smith, Myers

Defense: 26
DE - Watt, Smith, Crick, Jamison
DT - Mitchell, Jones, McClain
OLB - Mercilus, Montgomery, Williams, Braman
ILB - Cushing, Reed, Sharpton, Dobbins, Tuggle
CB - KJ, JJo, McCain, Harris, Carmichael
S - Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Pleasant, Keo

ST: 3
LS - Weeks
K - Bullock
P - Lechler

PUP - Devier Posey, Fig Newton

Corrosion 04-29-2013 10:22 PM

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This roster isnt complete - They will sign some FA's .... Most definately at WR & ILB and probably a DL or two.

Insideop 04-30-2013 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keyser (Post 2159421)
I think you're mostly on target. It should be interesting, since I think a lot of those positions are open to competition at the bottom. Here are the things I'm thinking:
- I think they keep 3 QBs, though we'll see how they look in preseason.
- Not sure they keep 6 WRs. There are only 2 (AJ, Hopkins) that I see as sure keepers (as well as Posey) - I could see any of the others not making the roster, and so I'm not sure that 4 of them will stick. I would not be surprised to see them keep only 5, with a couple more on the PS. If they expect Posey back, and if it works (I forget the rules), I wouldn't be surprised to see 6, with that 6th one going to the PS when Posey returns.
- I could see 4 TEs and only 1 FB (especially if they go with only 5 WR)
- Would be a little surprised at 3 NTs, and would think they might drop down to 2. In place, I'd guess either some other LB prospect (still feels way too thin at ILB), a return specialist (might be the extra DB or WR), or that 3rd QB.
- I'd like to see Keo replaced, but they seem to like him, so he'll probably be there. But, I think we might lose a safety (Pleasant) in favor of another CB or a returner, if we don't lose one of the NTs.

I thought about the 3 QB's but Keenum has another year of PS eligibility, and I don't think Kubes will want to use a valuable roster spot on a back up QB he can stash on the PS. Now if Keenum improves enough to beat out Yates then that changes the situation.

The WR situation is tough. They carried 6 last season for awhile with Holliday as their KR. This year I think Martin will be the KR and Bonner will step in as the PR. This area still seems thin even after drafting 2 WR's. I don't think Posey will be back until after mid season at best, and even then he may not ever come back 100%. A lot depends on how bad his achilles tear was. I just hope AJ can stay healthy the full season again. They may only carry 5 with Maehl being the odd man out. I don't think he has any more PS time left.

They carried only 2 TE's last year with Casey being a 3rd if necessary. They will carry at least 3 this year and you may be right with a 4th. I know it hurt them last season when GG went down with injuries and they couldn't run their 2 TE sets very well. I think they even put an extra OT in there as a TE a few times late in the season on certain packages. If they carry 4 I guess Ryan Griffin will be one of them. I just don't know how ready he or Supernaw are for the NFL and I can't see Kubes using a roster spot on 2 guys at the same position who haven't played a down in the NFL. One yes. Two no. Either one could end up on the PS if they only carry 3 TE.

You're right about carrying 3 NT's. I just wonder if they would risk putting Jones on the PS and possibly losing him to another team. They are thin at the position already and I think Hunter may go to the PS too, so I'm not sure what they're thinking is right now. My guess is Mitchell will start (obviously) and Terrell McClain will back him up since he has some NFL experience and was a 3rd round draft pick. If Chris Jones can't beat out McClain, do they give him a 3rd roster spot or do they try to stash him and Hunter on the PS? I know they are high on Hunter and he will definitely be on the PS at the very minimum. So, I guess this comes down to a battle between McClain and Jones if they only keep 2 NTs.

You're also right about being too thin at ILB with only 3 on the roster now. That's where Reed comes into play as an ILB, and my guess is they will ultimately carry 4. Now whether that 4th ILB is Reed, or a FA pickup, or one of the UDFA's I don't know yet. It will all have to play itself out on the field.

Big Lou 04-30-2013 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 2159407)
OK, the Draft is over and the Mini Camps and OTA's are about to start. I'm already looking forward and trying to guess the 53 man the Roster. Let's get started!

Offense
QB's (2) Matt Schaub, T.J. Yates

WR's (6) A. Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins (R), LeStar Jean, Kevin Martin, Alan Bonner (R), Jeff Maehl or (UDFA)

TE's (3) Owen Daniels, Garrett Graham, Phillip Supernaw or Ryan Griffin (R)

RB's (3) Arian Foster, Ben Tate, (UDFA)

FB's (2) Greg Jones, Tyler Clutts

OT's (4) Duane Brown, Ryan Harris, Derek Newton (Health ?),
Brennan Williams (R)

OC (1) Chris Myers

OG (4) Wade Smith, Brandon Brooks, Ben Jones (Will also be backup Center), David Quessenberry (R)

Total Offensive Players 25

Defense
DE's (4) Antonio Smith, J.J. Watt, Jared Crick, Tim Jamison

NT's (3) Earl Mitchell, Terrell McClain, Chris Jones (R)

OLB's (5) Whitney Mercilus, Bryan Braman, Brooks Reed (Will probably play ILB a little to a lot.), Sam Montgomery (R), Trevardo Williams (R)

ILB's (3) Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Tim Dobbins

CB's (5) Kareem Jackson, Johnathan Joseph, Brice McCain, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael

S's (5) Ed Reed, Daniel Manning, D.J. Swearinger (R), Shiloh Keo, Eddie Pleasant

Total Defensive Players 25

Special Teams
K's (1) Randy Bullock

P's (1) Shane Lechler

LS's (1) Jon Weeks

Total Special Teams Players 3

PUP (1) DeVier Posey (Depending on Posey's injury he could go on IR.)

As far as the Practice Squad I don't have a feel for the players yet, but Ryan Griffin could be on it if he can't beat out Supernaw and Chris Jones could also be on it if they decide to go with only 2 NT's. They will probably keep another of the 4 UDFA RB's they have and probably a WR or 2 as well as another LBer. It's hard to pin down who will make it which should make for a lot of fun during the preseason.

Well, there it is. What do you think?

Who is Kevin Martin?

ObsiWan 04-30-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Lou (Post 2159740)
Who is Kevin Martin?

He's a clone. They took DNA samples from Kevin Walter and Keyshawn Martin and produced a composite WR
:D

Quick II Draw 04-30-2013 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Almost Everyone on This Forum
...Keyshawn Martin...

It's Keshawn. No "y."

The Pencil Neck 04-30-2013 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick II Draw (Post 2159752)
It's Keshawn. No "y."

Damn. I think I've been guilty of that.

drs23 04-30-2013 04:07 PM

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Why does everyone list two fullbacks? Did Clutts have a guaranteed two year contract? I see two FBs this year.

But then again, what do I know?

ObsiWan 04-30-2013 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick II Draw (Post 2159752)
It's Keshawn. No "y."

oh snap!
:toropalm:

76Texan 04-30-2013 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drs23 (Post 2159772)
Why does everyone list two fullbacks? Did Clutts have a guaranteed two year contract? I see two FBs this year.

But then again, what do I know?

We picked up his contract when we made the trade with the Bears.
There's no guaranteed money involved so Clutts can be cut anytime without affecting the salary cap.

kingtexan 04-30-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2159819)
We picked up his contract when we made the trade with the Bears.
There's no guaranteed money involved so Clutts can be cut anytime without affecting the salary cap.

Yeah, I cant see us carrying two FB's.

Big Lou 04-30-2013 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ObsiWan (Post 2159749)
He's a clone. They took DNA samples from Kevin Walter and Keyshawn Martin and produced a composite WR
:D

I thought that was Kevishawn Martiters?

Never notice but K-Mart could be just like:

Kevin Walter(s)
Brian Cushing(s)
Keshawn Martin(s)

EllisUnit 04-30-2013 06:07 PM

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Did we get a new WR named Kevin Matrin :rake:

G27RR 04-30-2013 06:22 PM

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Anyone think there's a chance they use Quessenberry as the long snapper, and lose Weeks? His draft bio says he has long snapper experience.

The Pencil Neck 04-30-2013 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drs23 (Post 2159772)
Why does everyone list two fullbacks? Did Clutts have a guaranteed two year contract? I see two FBs this year.

But then again, what do I know?

I kept Clutz on the roster because:

1) Jones is already kinda old. He's not the future at that position. If Clutz has talent for it, they could use this time to train him up.
2) Clutz plays on ST.

They might not keep him. Over the course of his tenure, I think Kubiak has had more seasons with multiple FBs on the team than seasons without.

badboy 04-30-2013 07:28 PM

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I hope we sign a vet Nose, ILB and WR. If Hopkins does not have the rookie year we all hope, it may be a long season. I am not as concerned with ILb as I am with Mitchell at the nose with basically no one behind him.


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