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DX-TEX 04-20-2013 09:23 PM

Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...wide-receiver/

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When we posted our Houston Texans draft needs today, we started at wide receiver. Andre Johnson agrees with that assessment.

Johnson told John McClain of the Houston Chronicle that he’s been lobbying the front office to use the Texans’ first-round pick, No. 27 overall, on a wide receiver.

“I’d like to have another [receiver],” Johnson said. “I’m all for it. I’ve asked for it for awhile. The more weapons we have, the better it’ll be for the team.”
This made me depressed. Dre is all class and the definition of a pro and this makes me feel like he is now pleading for help.

Maybe Im wrong but this makes me really despise Kubiak and Rick Smith even more.

htownfan32 04-20-2013 09:29 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2153624)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...wide-receiver/



This made me depressed. Dre is all class and the definition of a pro and this makes me feel like he is now pleading for help.

Maybe Im wrong but this makes me really despise Kubiak and Rick Smith even more.

Yeah, I got the same vibe. Sad.

IDEXAN 04-20-2013 09:38 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
He got two of them last year, and he got his safety buddy from the U this year.
That's enough.

DX-TEX 04-20-2013 09:56 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2153630)
He got two of them last year, and he got his safety buddy from the U this year.
That's enough.

But he just said that now not last year. Speculation, but it says to me he doesn't have much faith in Martin, Jean or Posey at this point.

I feel if this season doesn't go well (AFCCG or better) Dre will asked to be traded or released.

EVOLVIST 04-20-2013 10:25 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
A little more in depth link:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...pid=sportshcat

He answers DX-TX's question here:

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“If we’re able to add another guy, it would probably be the best group of receivers we’ve had since I’ve been here,” Johnson said. “Adding another guy (to go with) Posey, Lestar (Jean) and Keshawn — that’s a lot of talent. Not only would it be good for now, but it would be good for our future.”
- So I don't think he's down on the guys we already have, but maybe he doesn't think one is an automatic #2.

I like how he goes on to say he'd like to play another 5 years:


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“I think there’s a big window for the organization, but Andre Johnson’s window is not very big,” he said. “When I came into this league, my goal was to play 10 years. Now I want to play five more."
And here's a comment from a fan that I can really get behind, from the same link:

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RD90
9:20 PM on April 20, 2013
Take Dre Hopkins out of Clemson, he'll be ready to go day 1 and will be a big red zone threat.

Trade one of our mid-round picks (we have a few extra via the supplemental) for Nick Foles from the Eagles. Foles isn't going to fit into Chip Kelly's read-option offense and would be nice (and inexpensive...draft choice wise) replacement for Schaub after the the 2014 season (once his guaranteed money has cleared the cap) if not before.
You're not going to trade any supplement picks, but if there was anyway to get Nick Foles and give up some picks I would do it in a heartbeat.

ChampionTexan 04-20-2013 10:53 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2153624)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...wide-receiver/



This made me depressed. Dre is all class and the definition of a pro and this makes me feel like he is now pleading for help.

Maybe Im wrong but this makes me really despise Kubiak and Rick Smith even more.

I'm sorry, but while I don't believe for one minute Andre is "pleading for help" with the idea of moving on if he doesn't get it, I find it incredible that anyone would actually believe he's got any basis whatsoever to do so.

Thanks to using his Uncle as his agent, 'Dre did a crappy second deal, and pretty much immediately upon voicing displeasure about it, had that deal redone with 5 years still left on it - that's unheard of. If I recall correctly, he became the second highest paid receiver in the league at the time (2010). Since then, his team has gone to the playoffs 2 out of 3 years, won a playoff game in both of those two seasons, and continue to have a window to win that is roughly equivalent to the prime years Dre's got left in his career.

The Texans have put 'Dre into a very good position at this point in his career, and anyone claiming he's going to be unhappy and want to move on if his input/comments aren't acted upon doesn't know 'Dre very well, and they apparently don't understand the business of NFL football very well either.

DocBar 04-20-2013 10:59 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
I say get him some help, but don't reach. As usual, go BPA and use your draft board. I, for one, don't think Posey will ever have an impact on an NFL team. An Achilles injury will be too much to overcome.

TexansSeminole 04-20-2013 11:05 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
I really don't view it as Dre pleading for help. It sounds more to me like he is trying to reassure everybody that he has no problem with help or less touches, actually he encourages it when it helps the team. He is telling people that he likes the idea.

I think it's obvious that we need another receiver right now and will address it in the draft. You have to remember that we have spent a great deal of draft picks on defense. We had one of the worst defenses in the league 2 years ago and were switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. There are legitimate reasons for having not drafting a receiver high in recent seasons. We are lucky to have hit on JJ Watt or pass rush would be our biggest need over receiver and right tackle right now.

DX-TEX 04-20-2013 11:23 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOLVIST (Post 2153638)
A little more in depth link:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...pid=sportshcat

He answers DX-TX's question here:

- So I don't think he's down on the guys we already have, but maybe he doesn't think one is an automatic #2.

I like how he goes on to say he'd like to play another 5 years:




And here's a comment from a fan that I can really get behind, from the same link:



You're not going to trade any supplement picks, but if there was anyway to get Nick Foles and give up some picks I would do it in a heartbeat.

Knew I should have clicked the link in that PFT article. I fell for the trap!

I do not want Foles though. I don't see him being any better than TJ right now.

PapaL 04-21-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2153653)
I do not want Foles though. I don't see him being any better than TJ right now.

This I agree with. We don't know what we have in TJ but that doesn't mean someone else's garbage is better than our "garbage".

Vance87 04-21-2013 12:10 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
I really liked Posey's potential when we drafted him. He came on at the end of the season and then of course he tore his damn achilles. That makes this whole situation a lot more difficult.

Texn4life 04-21-2013 12:34 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
The thing is we haven't really had a first round bust since Okoye so its not like we've drafted bad in the first round. Our defense sucked so its been tough to get a big free agent receiver when we've been trying to improve the team on the other side of the ball.

I do think its time to get him some help in the form of a guy the team really thinks can be a #2, but I do know what I really would have done differently in the first round the last 4 or 5 years.

TexansSeminole 04-21-2013 01:25 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance87 (Post 2153665)
I really liked Posey's potential when we drafted him. He came on at the end of the season and then of course he tore his damn achilles. That makes this whole situation a lot more difficult.

We should treat the Posey situation as if he will never contribute. He was a project that hadn't had alot of playing time coming out of college anyway.

Vance87 04-21-2013 01:52 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
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Originally Posted by TexansSeminole (Post 2153688)
We should treat the Posey situation as if he will never contribute. He was a project that hadn't had alot of playing time coming out of college anyway.

Of course we should, even if he didn't get injured most would say we still need a #2 receiver, just that he was showing flashes of brilliance and then he got hurt, which basically puts us back at square 1.

Norg 04-21-2013 01:54 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
HE ALREADY got help Posey and Martin and Lestar


and I know this front office there not giving up on POsey just after 1 year


besides this offensive does not run throught WR more like TE and RB


if anything andre expect another Tight end or RB LOL ..

Maddict5 04-21-2013 03:37 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
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Originally Posted by Texn4life (Post 2153670)
The thing is we haven't really had a first round bust since Okoye so its not like we've drafted bad in the first round.

I guess.... if you class the current all-pro and best LT in football, droty and top 3 ilb in the league, probowl-calibre cb (in 2012 anyway), current dpoty who probably just had 1 of the best seasons by a defensive player ever and a pass rusher coming off a promising rookie season as 'not busts'

just out of curiousity- can anybody show me a better 4 yr streak of prolific 1st rd drafting that the Texans had from 08-11?

best let them keep doing their thing and let aj keep doing his. wonder if the cards regret taking gm advice from fitz re kolb and Michael floyd

kingtexan 04-21-2013 08:41 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
The help that AJ needs is a better distributor under center.

Fili 04-21-2013 09:13 AM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
He better ask for another WR. Less trouble for him, if the the newbie is good.

Rey 04-21-2013 12:07 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
To me it sounds like Andre wants another beast on the other side. We have some nice players that can make good plays, but we don't have that legit scare the he'll out of defenses threat on the other side.

EllisUnit 04-21-2013 12:08 PM

Re: Dre is asking for a #2 WR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DX-TEX (Post 2153624)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...wide-receiver/



This made me depressed. Dre is all class and the definition of a pro and this makes me feel like he is now pleading for help.

Maybe Im wrong but this makes me really despise Kubiak and Rick Smith even more.

Its cause he knows with a little pressure off him he could break CJs receiving record :kitten:. And i believe if he EVER had a legit #2 AJ would hold many more records than he currently does. He has pretty much been our only WR threat since he's been here.

Other teams have a bad ass #1 and usually try to get a #2 who could be a #1. The texans no, we get 1 good guy and they expect him to carry the team as far as that position goes.


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