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Texanmike02 04-04-2013 03:13 PM

JJ Watt was injured?
 
Don't have a link but just saw the marquee on NFL network. It said Watt had multiple torn ligaments in left elbow? So that's why he didn't pick off any passes... Lol.


Mike

Link to a story on Yahoo http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...0326--nfl.html

robroy72 04-04-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2147652)
Don't have a link but just saw the marquee on NFL network. It said Watt had multiple torn ligaments in left elbow? So that's why he didn't pick off any passes... Lol.


Mike

Yeah ... thats what the brace was for --> :swatter:

gwallaia 04-04-2013 03:16 PM

Re: JJ Watt was injured?
 
He was injured in training camp if I recall correctly.

Señor Stan 04-04-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Texanmike02 (Post 2147652)
Don't have a link but just saw the marquee on NFL network. It said Watt had multiple torn ligaments in left elbow? So that's why he didn't pick off any passes... Lol.


Mike

Link to a story on Yahoo http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...0326--nfl.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/91...-strength-2012

Texanmike02 04-04-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robroy72 (Post 2147654)
Yeah ... thats what the brace was for --> :swatter:

We were told it was precautionary not that hehasd multiple torn ligaments.

Mike

Señor Stan 04-04-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robroy72 (Post 2147654)
Yeah ... thats what the brace was for --> :swatter:

I don't think they ever revealed the extent of the injury. JJ claimed he continued to wear the brace because it made it easier for his grandmother to find him on TV.

Double Barrel 04-04-2013 05:39 PM

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wow...even more impressive to win DPOY with multiple torn ligaments in his left elbow. Dude could win back-to-back DPOY awards in 2013!

Allstar 04-04-2013 06:51 PM

Re: JJ Watt was injured?
 
I'm guessing the dislocation caused small tears in the tendons?

dc_txtech 04-04-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by robroy72 (Post 2147654)
Yeah ... thats what the brace was for --> :swatter:

That's what I told my wife when she pointed out this story to me.

We all knew he was banged up to begin the season, his quote in the link begins with “In the beginning, it definitely affected me,”.

I remember the injury happening before the season started but I can't remember exactly what they reported as far as the extent. I figured it wasn't anything minor by the size of the brace. Maybe the resident doctor can clear this all up.

texanhead08 04-04-2013 08:53 PM

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I would never guess the Texans wouldn't fully tell us the extent of an injury. (sarcasm alert)

CloakNNNdagger 04-05-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Allstar (Post 2147775)
I'm guessing the dislocation caused small tears in the tendons?

As soon as it was reported that he had dislocated his elbow, it would automatically have to be presumed that he suffered multiple torn elbow-stabilizing ligaments. The elbow joint is held in place by many strong ligaments.....making it a very uncommon injury to begin with.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/figures/A00029F01a.jpg

The healing process to true completion is a very long process, and the full extension of the elbow, which put maximal stress on the ligaments, must be avoided during this period..........and protected long-term by the application of a brace to avoid instability and hyperextension and, therefore, potential re-injury.


My response on 8/7/12 after the injury occurred:

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 1990774)
I'm not sure where you may have gotten the impression that I believe that this is a minimal injury. Just the opposite. The description of the injury reflects a complete dislocation. If this is so, it implies significant ligament damage. We haven't and probably will not receive any comments as to what if any nerve stretch effects may have occured. All of this in mind certainly is why I would have to question a rehab at this time which includes push ups (even if it were only a partial dislocation). I've seen examples of "uncomplicated" dislocations where too intense rehab too soon have ended up doubling an expected 3-6 week return to play. This is not to even touch upon the potential compensatory injury factor.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=89

Jules Winnfield 04-05-2013 01:22 PM

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good thing he was taking batting practice with the ASStros. :kitten:

Fili 04-05-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield (Post 2148080)
good thing he was taking batting practice with the ASStros. :kitten:

Probably all healed up now.

Carr Bombed 04-06-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by texanhead08 (Post 2147813)
I would never guess the Texans wouldn't fully tell us the extent of an injury. (sarcasm alert)

It's not just the Texans.. Every team in the league does that.

The Pencil Neck 04-06-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr Bombed (Post 2148472)
It's not just the Texans.. Every team in the league does that.

Personally, I'd be upset and pissed off if we didn't.

srrono 04-07-2013 12:09 PM

Re: JJ Watt was injured?
 
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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2147995)
As soon as it was reported that he had dislocated his elbow, it would automatically have to be presumed that he suffered multiple torn elbow-stabilizing ligaments. The elbow joint is held in place by many strong ligaments.....making it a very uncommon injury to begin with.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/figures/A00029F01a.jpg

The healing process to true completion is a very long process, and the full extension of the elbow, which put maximal stress on the ligaments, must be avoided during this period..........and protected long-term by the application of a brace to avoid instability and hyperextension and, therefore, potential re-injury.


My response on 8/7/12 after the injury occurred:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...4&postcount=89

Is there a chance of surgery being needed even at this point now?

My son when he was 15 dislocated his knee cap and to this day (he is 23 now) his knee pops out of place which results in a lot of pain.

CloakNNNdagger 04-07-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by srrono (Post 2148571)
Is there a chance of surgery being needed even at this point now?

My son when he was 15 dislocated his knee cap and to this day (he is 23 now) his knee pops out of place which results in a lot of pain.

Surgery may be indicated if he suffers a recurrent dislocation.

Complete dislocations of the elbow, such as JJ experienced, are widely thought to have a benign prognosis if they are appropriately treated. Long term outcome studies report excellent functional results, however stiffness is common and usually manifests as a loss of range of motion, typically of full extension. The other concern is one of long term elbow instability. These problems (with later arthritis) are due to the severity of injury and widespread connective tissue damage associated with this injury, more so if accompanied by cartilage damage which is not all that uncommon.

A 2000 study found a 15% rate of residual instability among National Football League players who had suffered this type of injury. This rate included the lesser partial dislocations. Therefore, it would be expected to be higher in complete dislocations. Furthermore, another study found radiographic evidence of persistent instability in up to 50% of patients on formal stress testing of the injured elbow.....a good reason for JJ to be wearing a stabilizing brace.

Reported instability is likely to depend on the demands placed on the elbow. Symptomatic or functional instability may be less common among patients who do not subject the elbow to significant loads. Patients who undertake weighted upper body activities such as manual workers and athletes would be expected to have a higher rate of functional instability however these groups have not been closely or specifically separately examined. In the general population, the prevalence of functional instability after simple elbow dislocation treated with an early movement program is close to 10%. Stiffness remains a much more common problem for patients. High demand athletes such as JJ would seem to be at increased risk of instability but although this argument is persuasive, at present the evidence to support this has not been clearly established.

As I mentioned at the beginning, in cases of recurrent elbow dislocation, surgical intervention may be indicated to increase the elbow's stability. This is usually followed by an extensive rehabilitation program lasting many months.

Finally, despite excellent functional outcomes following dislocation, many patients report persisting symptoms several years after injury. Half report long term stiffness after elbow dislocation and 2/3rds report residual pain. It is clear that despite excellent functional outcomes, these injuries are not entirely benign although these problems may not have clear surgical solutions.

Probably, gave you more info in this answer than you really wanted.:)


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