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Playoffs 03-28-2013 01:08 PM

Todd McShay Mocks 2013
 
Todd McShay's updated 2 round mock draft (3/28)

1. KC - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. JAX - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
3. OAK - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
4. PHI - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
5. DET - Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
6. CLE - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
7. ARI - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
8. BUF - Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
9. NYJ - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
10. TEN - Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
11. SD - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. MIA - Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina
13. TB - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
14. CAR - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
15. NO - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
16. STL - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
17. PIT - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
18. DAL - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
19. NYG - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
20. CHI - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
21. CIN - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
22. STL - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. MIN - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
24. IND - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
25. MIN - Keenan Allen, WR, California
26. GB - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
27. HOU - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
28. DEN - Manti Teo, LB, Notre Dame
29. NE - Justin Pugh, G, Syracuse
30. ATL - Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
31. SF - John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
32. BAL - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech

RD 2

33. JAX - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
34. SF - Zack Ertz, TE, Stanford
35. PHI - E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
36. DET - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
37. CIN - Matt Elam, S, Florida
38. ARI - Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
39. NYJ - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. TEN - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
41. BUF - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
42. MIA - D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
43. TB - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
44. CAR - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
45. SD - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
46. STL - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
47. DAL - Kyle Long, G, Oregon
48. PIT - Robert Woods, WR, USC
49. NYG - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
50. CHI - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
51. WAS - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
52. MIN - Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
53. CIN - Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
54. MIA - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
55. GB - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
56. SEA - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern
57. HOU - Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
58. DEN - Sio Moore, LB, Connecticut
59. NE - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
60. ATL - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
61. SF - Johnathan Cyprien - S, FIU
62. BAL - Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...und-mock-draft

Corrosion 03-28-2013 01:17 PM

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I really thought about Hopkins and J.Williams in the TT Mock .... but I have another plan that I think gives them better prospects at both positions.


Thanks for posting that ... insider info.

mussop 03-28-2013 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2144698)
Todd McShay's updated 2 round mock draft (3/28)

1. KC - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
2. JAX - Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
3. OAK - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
4. PHI - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
5. DET - Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
6. CLE - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
7. ARI - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
8. BUF - Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
9. NYJ - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
10. TEN - Shariff Floyd, DT, Florida
11. SD - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. MIA - Jonathan Cooper, G, North Carolina
13. TB - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
14. CAR - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
15. NO - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
16. STL - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
17. PIT - Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
18. DAL - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
19. NYG - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
20. CHI - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
21. CIN - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
22. STL - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. MIN - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
24. IND - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
25. MIN - Keenan Allen, WR, California
26. GB - Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
27. HOU - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
28. DEN - Manti Teo, LB, Notre Dame
29. NE - Justin Pugh, G, Syracuse
30. ATL - Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
31. SF - John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
32. BAL - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech

RD 2

33. JAX - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
34. SF - Zack Ertz, TE, Stanford
35. PHI - E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
36. DET - Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
37. CIN - Matt Elam, S, Florida
38. ARI - Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
39. NYJ - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. TEN - Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
41. BUF - Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
42. MIA - D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
43. TB - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
44. CAR - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
45. SD - Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
46. STL - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
47. DAL - Kyle Long, G, Oregon
48. PIT - Robert Woods, WR, USC
49. NYG - Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
50. CHI - Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
51. WAS - Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
52. MIN - Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
53. CIN - Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
54. MIA - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
55. GB - D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina
56. SEA - Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern
57. HOU - Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
58. DEN - Sio Moore, LB, Connecticut
59. NE - Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
60. ATL - Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
61. SF - Johnathan Cyprien - S, FIU
62. BAL - Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...und-mock-draft

That would be a great start to a draft.

Wolf6151 03-28-2013 04:04 PM

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IF the draft fell like this Hopkins and J. Williams would be an excellent start to the draft. Both would fit this teams needs very well.


Corrosion, I thought your choice of Short in the current mock was an outstanding choice as well. Fixing NT has so many positive effects on our defense.

Corrosion 03-28-2013 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2144859)
IF the draft fell like this Hopkins and J. Williams would be an excellent start to the draft. Both would fit this teams needs very well.


Corrosion, I thought your choice of Short in the current mock was an outstanding choice as well. Fixing NT has so many positive effects on our defense.

I thnik its a clusterfluck right now .... at both the WR and DT spots. Some of these guys are going to fall , others are going to rise between now and draft day.

Short just fits the profile of a Wade Phillips NT better than the others - he's able to get upfield and hold the point , not one or the other.

As for WR , I think at least two who havent been picked yet will go before I pick again when the bullets are live.

Insideop 03-28-2013 06:33 PM

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Hopkins and J. Williams in the first 2 rounds would be great. They could look at ILB and Safety in the 3rd.

Vinny 03-28-2013 07:44 PM

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http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USA...ms-x-large.jpg

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-once/1941627/

SteveSlaton20 03-29-2013 09:36 PM

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I know we need a good NT, and Jesse Williams could be that, but is a NT worth taking in the 2nd with the NFL becoming a passing league?

mussop 03-30-2013 04:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveSlaton20 (Post 2145463)
I know we need a good NT, and Jesse Williams could be that, but is a NT worth taking in the 2nd with the NFL becoming a passing league?

This is why taking Short in the first is worth it. He has pass rush ability and is versitile enough to play end too.

Wolf6151 03-30-2013 05:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveSlaton20 (Post 2145463)
I know we need a good NT, and Jesse Williams could be that, but is a NT worth taking in the 2nd with the NFL becoming a passing league?

Yes. Even if the Texans takes a NT that's considered a run stuffer like Jesse Williams, he still helps in the passing game by taking up blocks. A quality NT will take up 2 linemen/blockers that will free up others like Watt and Smith to do their thing, and when that NT gets single blocking he can collapse the pocket from the middle and pressure the QB up the middle. A good NT doesn't have to be a quick penetrating type to have an effect on the passing game. Kawann Short does both jobs well, penetrating and handling double teams, thus the reason he's worthy of a 1st round pick.

badboy 03-30-2013 06:17 PM

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Brandon Williams in third (rated 97)that can penetrate and stop run is worth me gambling until #89. This allows us to address another position in top two rounds and maybe even better if we trade out of #27.

Playoffs 04-13-2013 09:25 PM

Re: Todd McShay Mocks 2013
 
Mock 5.0

1 Chiefs = Joeckel
2 Jaguars = Jordan
3 Raiders = Ansah
4 Eagles = Lotulelei
5 Lions = Fisher
6 Browns = Geno Smith
7 Cardinals = Lane Johnson
8 Bills = Warmack
9 Jets = Milliner
10 Titans = Floyd
11 Chargers = Cooper
12 Dolphins = Rhodes
13 Buccaneers = Austin
14 Panthers = Richardson
15 Saints = Mingo
16 Rams = Patterson
17 Steelers = Jarvis Jones
18 Cowboys = Vaccaro
19 Giants = Fluker
20 Bears = Eifert
21 Bengals = Trufant
22 Rams (from WSH) = Lacy
23 Vikings = Ogletree
24 Colts = Hayden
25 Vikings (from SEA) = Sylvester Williams
26 Packers = Pugh
27 Texans = Menelik Watson, OT
28 Broncos = Werner
29 Patriots = Datone Jones
30 Falcons = Jamar Taylor
31 49ers = Cyprien
32 Ravens = Te'o

The Pencil Neck 04-13-2013 09:32 PM

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Menelik Watson?

That would be an interesting way to go. I'd be really surprised by that move but it makes some sense.

IDEXAN 04-13-2013 09:57 PM

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OT with the first pick ? Like they say, the game is won (or lost) on the los. So don't be that surprised if they go OT (or DLine), with the top pick.

ChampionTexan 04-13-2013 10:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2150864)
OT with the first pick ? Like they say, the game is won (or lost) on the los.

Unless you're quarterback sucks. :kitten:

powda 04-14-2013 12:27 PM

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Hate it.

mussop 04-14-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by powda (Post 2150940)
Hate it.

You wouldn't in a couple of years. Watson will be a beast in a couple of years.

Nawzer 04-14-2013 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2151084)
You wouldn't in a couple of years. Watson will be a beast in a couple of years.

Would be a very Texan like pick to draft someone relatively unexpected.

powda 04-15-2013 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2151084)
You wouldn't in a couple of years. Watson will be a beast in a couple of years.

There's a decent chance of that. I don't hate the talent...I hate that allocation of talent. If the season started today who'd be our starting nose tackle? If the season started today who'd be our starting wrs? I don't like that direction...or selecting a te in the first...which I know your a fan of. It's all subjective.

mussop 04-15-2013 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by powda (Post 2151122)
There's a decent chance of that. I don't hate the talent...I hate that allocation of talent. If the season started today who'd be our starting nose tackle? If the season started today who'd be our starting wrs? I don't like that direction...or selecting a te in the first...which I know your a fan of. It's all subjective.

Well there is always still FA. I know we don't have much money left but I believe there will be some solid vets available at the minimum. Mainly at the DT position. And we still have 4 quality picks left after our first. WR is deep so shouldnt be a problem finding talent later.


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