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Insideop 03-17-2013 02:45 PM

Walter Football Draft
 
Well, I'm getting bored with no news on the Reed front and looking at the same mocks here, so I decided to post this mock that Walter Football did a few days ago and see what some of you think. Would you be happy with this?

The latest Walter Football draft Has the Texans selecting:

1st Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

2nd Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU

3rd D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina

4th Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose St.

5th Oday Aboushi, OG/OT, Virginia

Full draft link http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...43828540,d.b2I

I'm still not sold on the Texans drafting Hunter. Not because he's no good, but because I think Allen and Hopkins are more NFL ready. And now, with Walter gone, it becomes more important to get that #2 WR that's as ready as possible. I think if Allen or Hopkins are there at #27 that's who they take.

Minter in the 2nd would be great but I don't think he lasts that long. Walter Football had the Texans taking Minter in the 1st before. Not sure why they dropped him, although most of the ILB's seem to be dropping (Ogletree, Te'o, etc..). It's just not a very good class. My guess is, that if Minter is there in the 2nd they take him, if not, they may look for a NT or OLB.

Swearinger in the 3rd would be great. Otten in the 4th seems a little early but not too bad. Not sure if the Texans will look at TE this early though. I'm hoping for Williams in the 5th, or maybe Lucas Reed or Zach Sudfeld in the 7th. Any of those 3 guys could be a steal in this draft. Aboushi in the 5th would be good. He seems like he's made for the zone blocking scheme and would be a good fit.

Dutchrudder 03-17-2013 03:13 PM

Add a 3rd comp pick to that mix and I think that's a good start to a draft. I would go oline with the comp pick and try to grab a RT or guard.

76Texan 03-17-2013 03:50 PM

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I would take Allen at #27.

I would trade down for either Hunter or Hopkins.

At the end of the day though, there are several receivers to choose from so I don't worry too much about it.

Insideop 03-17-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutchrudder (Post 2138041)
Add a 3rd comp pick to that mix and I think that's a good start to a draft. I would go oline with the comp pick and try to grab a RT or guard.

Yeah, the comp picks will change all the "official" mocks, but we won't know what we've got until probably sometime in early April. Although, the 3rd round comp for Mario should be a done deal. If the Draft fell this way for the Texans, I'd probably go with the DT using the 3rd round comp pick. Maybe Bennie Logan, if he's still there.

Insideop 03-17-2013 04:05 PM

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I would take Allen at #27.
Yep! I just don't think he'll be there, unfortunately.

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I would trade down for either Hunter or Hopkins
Thought of this. And, depending on how the Draft goes, it could be a real possibility for the Texans. Not sure how much they can trade back and still have Hopkins on the board. Early 2nd at most. Maybe Eagles or Cards trade up for a QB.

76Texan 03-17-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 2138070)
Yep! I just don't think he'll be there, unfortunately.



Thought of this. And, depending on how the Draft goes, it could be a real possibility for the Texans. Not sure how much they can trade back and still have Hopkins on the board. Early 2nd at most. Maybe Eagles or Cards trade up for a QB.

I think it will depend on how many FA receivers get signed.
If all or most of them find a home, chances are the receivers will get pushed down draft boards.

76Texan 03-17-2013 04:14 PM

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I would cut Schaub, run the no huddle offense (early in the game or when we need to play catch-up) with Keenum.

Draft 3 receivers; use the rest for defense; then get the cooler ready to enjoy some shoot-outs (or massacre.) :cow:

Insideop 03-17-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2138076)
I think it will depend on how many FA receivers get signed.
If all or most of them find a home, chances are the receivers will get pushed down draft boards.

I hope this happens, and they push Allen right down to #27. I know the Vikes were one team that probably would have drafted a WR in the 1st if they hadn't signed Jennings.

greekdbag 03-18-2013 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 2138086)
I hope this happens, and they push Allen right down to #27. I know the Vikes were one team that probably would have drafted a WR in the 1st if they hadn't signed Jennings.

I could still see them going after Tavon Austin?

Insideop 03-18-2013 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 2138064)
Yeah, the comp picks will change all the "official" mocks, but we won't know what we've got until probably sometime in early April. Although, the 3rd round comp for Mario should be a done deal. If the Draft fell this way for the Texans, I'd probably go with the DT using the 3rd round comp pick. Maybe Bennie Logan, if he's still there.

Update! The compensatory picks come out tomorrow 3/18/13! Hope it's good news (4 picks) for the Texans!

Playoffs 03-18-2013 09:03 AM

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3/18 Charlie Campbell mock:
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27. Houston Texans: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
The Texans need an understudy to Andre Johnson and Hunter would be a great fit. He has good size plus enough speed to stretch the field. Hunter could continue to regain his speed and explosiveness while learning behind Johnson.

Hunter wasn't completely back to his old form in 2012, and yet he still was one of the better wide receivers in college football this season. Hunter was red hot late in the year with massive games against Troy and Missouri. He finished 2012 with 73 receptions for 1,083 yards and nine touchdowns.

Hunter (6-4, 200) looked poised for a mammoth season in 2011, posting 16 receptions for 302 yards and two scores through the first two games. However against Florida, on a routine 12-yard catch early in the third game, he went down with a torn ACL following a leaping reception. It was a surprising injury as Hunter did not take a shot to the knee, or have another player fall into his leg in a manner that typically causes knee ligament tears.

Prior to the injury, Hunter looked like a truly rare receiver who is extremely tall but has the speed of a burner wide out. In a lot of ways his game resembled Randy Moss. Hunter had 16 receptions for 403 yards and two touchdowns as a freshman in 2010.
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57. Houston Texans: Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
The Texans need a complement for Brian Cushing since their defense was really weak in the middle after he went down. They badly need to fortify the middle of the defense.

Minter (6-0, 246) was phenomenal in 2012. The junior was the most consistent player on the Tigers' defense, and that is saying something considering all the NFL talent on LSU's stop unit. Minter totaled 130 tackles with 15 tackles for a loss, four sacks, five passes broken up, a forced fumble and an interception. He recorded 61 tackles, a sack and a forced fumble in 2011.

There is no doubt that Minter is an excellent run-defender. He attacks the line of scrimmage and is very tough about taking on blocks from offensive linemen. Additionally, Minter sheds blocks and is an excellent tackler. He covers a lot of ground with the speed to make tackles on stretch runs to the perimeter. Minter is very fast and explosive. He could be a sideline-to-sideline middle linebacker for a 4-3 NFL defense.

As for pass coverage, Minter is still improving. He gets good depth in his drops and shows the potential to play some man coverage. Minter can pick up backs out of the backfield and run with them. He is going to need to work on his ability to cover receiving tight ends in the passing-obsessed NFL. Minter certainly has the speed, but will need to work on his technique in running with them downfield. He is a good blitzer who can contribute to the pass rush, too.

Minter is fast and physical. He hits with authority and was a real difference-maker for the Tigers.
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89. Houston Texans: Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
The Texans could use another tight end with Owen Daniels slowing down. Reed is a perfect fit in Houston's offense.

Reed played well for Florida and has some real play-making ability. He led them with 45 receptions for 559 yards and three touchdowns in 2012. The Gators could have gotten more out of Reed, but sophomore quarterback Jeff Driskel was inconsistent. Reed had a costly fumble inside the 10-yard line late in the fourth quarter in a close loss to Georgia.

The 6-foot-3, 236-pound Reed, a former quarterback, is still developing at tight end, and he should have returned for his senior season. Reed is a dangerous receiver, but needs to improve his blocking ability to be a three-down player. He caught 28 passes for 307 yards and two touchdowns as sophomore in 2011. The redshirt junior has also been tutored by former Gators and current Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.

Reed caught only six passes for 79 yards and one touchdown in 2010, but that was because Florida had him playing other positions in the majority of his snaps. For instance, he played some spread-option quarterback and completed 26 of 46 passes for 252 yards. Reed also ran for 328 yards and five touchdowns.

IDEXAN 03-18-2013 09:37 AM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2138060)

At the end of the day though, there are several receivers to choose from so I don't worry too much about it.

So how does this years crop of WRs in the Draft compare with the 2012 crop ?

Mr teX 03-18-2013 09:51 AM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
I would :drool: over this draft if it were to come to fruition...

76Texan 03-18-2013 12:14 PM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
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Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2138393)
So how does this years crop of WRs in the Draft compare with the 2012 crop ?

Top to bottom I think it's better.
I think Patterson and Allen are better prospect than Blackmon and Flloyd as they are more dynamic (both speed and quickness.)

Austin is different from Wright but both are explosive.

And there are a bunch I would take over what's his name that the Niners drafted in the first round?

This class has more speed and quickness than the last.

Wolf6151 03-22-2013 03:42 AM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
As of 3-20-13 here's Walters latest mock for the Texans.

1. Justin Hunter-WR
2. Jordan Reed-TE
3. Jon Bostic-ILB
3b. J.J. Wilcox-S
4. Oday Aboushi-OT
5. Brandon Jenkins-OLB

I'm very ehhhhh on this mock draft.

steelbtexan 03-22-2013 07:14 AM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2141231)
As of 3-20-13 here's Walters latest mock for the Texans.

1. Justin Hunter-WR
2. Jordan Reed-TE
3. Jon Bostic-ILB
3b. J.J. Wilcox-S
4. Oday Aboushi-OT
5. Brandon Jenkins-OLB

I'm very ehhhhh on this mock draft.

How would you feel if Brandon Williams was substituted for Reed?

Wolf6151 03-22-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2141243)
How would you feel if Brandon Williams was substituted for Reed?

Give me David Amerson in the 2nd and Brandon Williams in the 3rd and I'd be alot happier.

steelbtexan 03-22-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2141246)
Give me David Amerson in the 2nd and Brandon Williams in the 3rd and I'd be alot happier.

Man, that would be an awsome draft.

Doubt Amerson and Williams will be there in rds 2-3. Probably it's an either/or situation.

Wolf6151 03-22-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2141252)
Man, that would be an awsome draft.

Doubt Amerson and Williams will be there in rds 2-3. Probably it's an either/or situation.

Brandon Williams might go in the 2nd round because it only take one crazy GM to over value a guy, but IMO he should be a 3rd rounder. He's making a huge leap from D2 to the NFL, and while he plugs the middle and plays the run well he doesn't offer alot when it comes to rushing the QB. He's got alot to learn and is a minor project player that will need to rotate with someone at NT by whomever drafts him and will probably take at least a year to become a good consistent starter level player.

Insideop 03-22-2013 12:08 PM

Re: Walter Football Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2141231)
As of 3-20-13 here's Walters latest mock for the Texans.

1. Justin Hunter-WR
2. Jordan Reed-TE
3. Jon Bostic-ILB
3b. J.J. Wilcox-S
4. Oday Aboushi-OT
5. Brandon Jenkins-OLB

I'm very ehhhhh on this mock draft.

Yeah, I'd have to say the same. And why does Aboushi suddenly move from the 5th to the 4th round? Has he done something to improve his rank?

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How would you feel if Brandon Williams was substituted for Reed?
I'd like that better. Williams probably won't be there later in the 3rd, and Jordan Reed to me is another OD or Graham as far as size. If they went TE in the 2nd I'd go with Vance McDonald who is moving up draft boards, and is a bigger TE with a lot of upside.


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