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CloakNNNdagger 03-05-2013 10:01 AM

Path of NFL to Los Angeles Following Same Ugly History
 
Does this surprise anyone?

Sources: AEG's downtown L.A. stadium proposal looks like a no-go for the NFL

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Less than six months after the L.A. city council voted unanimously to support AEG's plan, the concept is essentially dead to the NFL, according to two sources. The problems with the plan are numerous, but the most essential one is the economics.

AEG's proposed NFL football stadium, to be named Farmers Field, is depicted next to Staples "The numbers just don't work, no matter how you look at the deal," a league source said in February. "It's either too hard for AEG to make money [and pay the debt on the stadium] or too hard for the team. I just can't see a way for it to work."

Officially, a league spokesman said Monday that the NFL is still tracking what AEG is trying to do.

"We continue to monitor the AEG situation and remain interested in multiple sites in the Los Angeles area," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement.

Unofficially, the NFL believes that the cost of the AEG plan, which the league believes will be at least $1.8 billion, will make it unworkable.
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TexanSam 03-05-2013 10:22 AM

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I've never been to LA so I'm not familiar with the area, but just looking at the location from google maps where they proposed to build the stadium, I don't see anyway how that would work. They would have a stadium, and absolutely no places for people to park. Shoehorning is an understatement.

paycheck71 03-05-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanSam (Post 2131753)
I've never been to LA so I'm not familiar with the area, but just looking at the location from google maps where they proposed to build the stadium, I don't see anyway how that would work. They would have a stadium, and absolutely no places for people to park. Shoehorning is an understatement.

It's downtown, so I'm guessing there is more than enough parking in the area. Where it probably IS hurting them is that they wouldn't be able to collect much or anything for the parking, effectively eliminating a big revenue stream that a lot of stadiums have.

Brisco_County 03-05-2013 12:50 PM

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Parking and traffic for 80k travelers downtown would be impossible enough on a Sunday, but don't even think about Monday or Thursday night games.

Practicality just does not register with any governing body in that state.

Dread-Head 03-05-2013 02:11 PM

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LA needs to come to terms with the fact that it's not a "football" town. It's a basketball town. You don't go to a football game to be "seen". You go to a Laker game for that. Football was never "Fashionable" in Los Angeles. At one point Los Angeles had both the Rams AND Raiders. I remember being in LA when the Raiders were there. I was there on a Saturday and people were oblivious to the fact that there was a football game the following day. Football is an AFTERTHOUGHT in that city.



They want a football team as a status symbol. Translation Frisco has one and even lowly San Diego has one so we should have one. If they had it they wouldn't appreciate it and would treat the team as if they were lucky to BE there. Effectively they're that VERY pretty girl who's bad in bed because in "her" mind you're fortunate to simply HAVE her there. "Why should I do anything? You know how lucky you are to have me?" is the attitude LA gives it's sports teams (with the exception of the Lakers). IF the Clippers move on to another city and win a title I'd laugh myself to death.


That indifference towards (in my opinion) the GREATEST game in the world is PRECISELY how and WHY Los Angeles lost TWO football teams.

Thorn 03-05-2013 04:39 PM

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Actually, it'd be kind of interesting (watching the media) if a team did move to LA and LA failed to realistically support it.

CretorFrigg 03-05-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanSam (Post 2131753)
I've never been to LA so I'm not familiar with the area, but just looking at the location from google maps where they proposed to build the stadium, I don't see anyway how that would work. They would have a stadium, and absolutely no places for people to park. Shoehorning is an understatement.

Parking garage? Underground parking? If they're going to build a stadium, I doubt parking would be too much of an issue. There are a lot of ways around that. You can get a lot of parking spaces with a limited amount of area.

JimBaker488 03-06-2013 11:05 PM

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Metro LA is like 20 million, and what's Jacksonville metro, or Nashville, or Buffalo, 1 million ? Unbelievable.

Scooter 03-06-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JimBaker488 (Post 2132364)
Metro LA is like 20 million, and what's Jacksonville metro, or Nashville, or Buffalo, 1 million ? Unbelievable.

i went through jacksonville for the first time the week before last on my way to the daytona 500 and my first thought was "this city has a football team?". i'm not surprised in the least that they cant fill the stadium. it seems that there are suburbs of houston that are bigger.

that being said, that tiny city still has more support for a football team than you'll get from the 20mil in LA. they just dont care. despite producing a huge number of athletes, the fandom in LA just isnt there and couldnt care less about supporting an NFL team. being a major tv market has no bearing on filling the seats.

76Texan 03-07-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TexanSam (Post 2131753)
I've never been to LA so I'm not familiar with the area, but just looking at the location from google maps where they proposed to build the stadium, I don't see anyway how that would work. They would have a stadium, and absolutely no places for people to park. Shoehorning is an understatement.

I guess we'll know a little better when USC play Arizona in October at the Colliseum on a Thursday night (their first weekday/non-holiday game ever.)
They already admitted that traffic will be "an issue", and the stadium is in an area with less traffic (but I think they have a bigger crowd at the game?).

Traffic near downtown LA on a late afternoon weekday (with the Pacific time zone and all) will be killing. It's already bad without the game; I can't imagine the logistic they need to work out for game day. People might have to park somewhere else and take a shuttle to the game, more likely.

Playoffs 12-16-2014 10:16 PM

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UTKevinAcee ‏@UTKevinAcee
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Chargers will play in San Diego in 2015. Team says it won't exercise termination clause.
Sam Farmer ‏@LATimesfarmer
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The strongest indication yet that there will NOT be an NFL team in Los Angeles next season: http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...216-story.html

Wolf 12-20-2014 11:59 AM

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Sports app flashed that a report is out that Roger sent a memo to NFL teams that there will be no team in LA in 2015

Big surprise there :sarcasm:

Ranger Tom 12-20-2014 12:14 PM

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San Antonio should get a team before LA does.

Brisco_County 12-20-2014 12:18 PM

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The Rams or Jaguars would still be good candidates for LA as long as they build a stadium that attracts people. I'm usually not a fan of teams relocating, but those two teams don't have a lot of hometown support. And I still don't understand why Jacksonville even has a team.

burro 12-20-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisco_County (Post 2434270)
The Rams or Jaguars would still be good candidates for LA as long as they build a stadium that attracts people. I'm usually not a fan of teams relocating, but those two teams don't have a lot of hometown support. And I still don't understand why Jacksonville even has a team.

They host the Gator Bowl there and allegedly have a vibrant football culture. I doubt they are going anywhere, their attendance hasn't been too awful since 2011 and they just sunk 63 mil into stadium improvements.

Txn_in_FL 12-22-2014 11:25 AM

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If a team moves I think it will be the Rams. I'm in St. Louis right now and the vibe I get is other than die-hard fans, most of the people have the attitude that Houston had prior to the Oilers moving. An owner with constant demands and a city that is sick of handing over the bucks.

I'm not 100% up on the reasons, but I know they want a new stadium and the city is pretty much telling them to pound sand.

chicagotexan2 12-22-2014 05:04 PM

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The NFL really has a big woody for LA which I understand but the people of LA don't care about the NFL. They've proven it time and time again. It's like a girl infatuated with a dude that likes dudes. You can't convert them and make them want you. No matter how pretty or big your boobs are LA just ain't into you like you're into LA.

The only football LA cares about with any dedicated fans is USC and UCLA and that's it.


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