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HOU-TEX 02-28-2013 09:39 AM

2013 Texans Draft Analysis
 
I think this is ok to post in this section

This is a decent write up on the Texans needs and draft possibilities. I'm not sure I agree with his stance on our RB situation, but you never know.

The write up covers a lot, so I only quoted a couple positions I'd like addressed in the first couple days.

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1st - Keenan Allen, Cal (6-2, 206), DeAndre 'Nuk' Hopkins, Clemson (6-1, 214), Quinton Patton, La. Tech (6-0, 204), Terrance Williams, Baylor (6-2, 208)
2nd - Justin Hunter, Tennessee (6-4, 196), Robert Woods, USC (6-0, 201)
3rd - Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas (6-2, 212), Ryan Swope, Texas A&M (6-0, 205)
4th - Chris Harper, Kansas State (6-1, 229)
5th -
6th - Brandon Kaufman, Eastern Washington (6-5, 216)
7th -

I'd love to see them add a whippet quick Tavon Austin in the slot or a versatile Denard Robinson somewhere on the roster. But, that's not in The Plan. Each receiver on the board, for the most part, has size, can win at the line of scrimmage and can catch the football consistently.

Cal's Keenan Allen is hyped as the best receiver in this class, but it's not a complete slam dunk that he is in my opinion. Receivers have typically moved on down the board throughout the last few drafts and Allen may do just that. If he's available at #27, he's going to be difficult for the Texans to turn down, though.

Swope is the one many people will say doesn't fit the profile given his stereotypical comparison to Wes Welker, but let me tell you, he isn't Welker. He has great run after the catch abilities (he was a RB in high school) but he doesn't have to live in the slot but he's best served playing there.
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1st - ILB Kevin Minter, LSU (6-1, 245)
2nd - ILB Arthur Brown, Kansas State (6-0, 241)
3rd - ILB Kiko Alonso, Oregon (6-3, 238), ILB/OLB Sio Moore, U Conn (6-1, 240), OLB Sean Porter, Texas A&M (6-1, 229)
4th - ILB Jon Bostic, Florida (6-1, 245), ILB A.J Klein, Iowa State (6-1, 250), ILB Kevin Reddick, North Carolina (6-1, 243), ILB Nico Johnson, Alabama (6-2, 248)
5th - ILB Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech (6-1, 237)
6th -
7th -

Minter is the guy I've targeted for the Texans for a while. He explodes through ball carriers, reads extremely well and even if he's only a two down player, he'd make an instant impact in Houston. That said, the more that Minter proves he could be a three down linebacker, the less the Texans have to play six defensive backs and the more disguised the defense can be.

But, considering how much trouble the Texans had matching up to the Patriots, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Texans react (or overreact) and look long at Brown, who could match up with RB and TE in the passing game perhaps better than anyone on the board. Brown is an explosive player who reminds me of former Miami Hurricane star Sean Spence. But, Brown didn't endear himself to any teams at the Combine for choosing not to workout after gaining 12 pounds in the off-season.

Consequently, Alonso is a stretch given his off the field problems. However, the Texans are at that point where it's time to take the next step, even if it means thinking outside the traditional Texans' box. The game is getting faster, not slower, and the Texans have to adjust.
http://www.thesidelineview.com/colum...ne-draft-board

badboy 02-28-2013 09:52 AM

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I agree with the rankings of the wide recievers.

76Texan 02-28-2013 10:00 AM

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Wait ! They left out Patterson?

Playoffs 02-28-2013 11:10 AM

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Cyprien is borderline 1st rounder.

I don't think Arthur Brown will be there for us in 2nd, may be ahead of Minter.

Wondering if Fluker is overrated -- is he a hard worker?

Long's whole story puzzles me. He'll turn 25.

Menelik Watson is getting some 1st round love.

Winters did 9 reps on the bench -- needs to fix that.

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2130439)
Wait ! They left out Patterson?

He'll be gonzo.

I really like the way TSV builds these lists for us. :clap:

Corrosion 02-28-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2130439)
Wait ! They left out Patterson?

And Rodgers.

Kaiser Toro 02-28-2013 08:31 PM

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I would not have a problem if we took Swope in the 2nd. I see him as a 80+ reception guy by year two.

mussop 02-28-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 2130692)
I would not have a problem if we took Swope in the 2nd. I see him as a 80+ reception guy by year two.

You know kubiak has to be creaming his pants over this guy. White, from A&M, fast and has good size. We will probably draft him in the first round.

Kaiser Toro 02-28-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2130694)
You know kubiak has to be creaming his pants over this guy. White, from A&M, fast and has good size. We will probably draft him in the first round.

There are plenty of guys that fit that profile, but where I felt he created separation on an every play basis, was that he was mentally, and most often physically, tougher than anyone defending him.

76Texan 02-28-2013 10:37 PM

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Must be April Fool today, ahhhahhaha!

Lucky 02-28-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2130694)
You know kubiak has to be creaming his pants over this guy. White, from A&M, fast and has good size. We will probably draft him in the first round.

Why would Kubiak care that Swope is white? And the Texans have drafted only one Aggie since Kubiak took over in 2006 (Bullock in 2012).

Insideop 03-01-2013 03:43 AM

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I wouldn't have a problem with them getting Swope in the 2nd either but I'm not sure he will be there that late. After that 4.34 forty at the Combine, he's climbing up the draft boards. What I like about him, besides his speed, is his toughness. Saw this article in the chron this morning about him: http://www.chron.com/sports/aggies/a...ed-4319023.php Probably his biggest drawback or concern is his hand size (8 1/2"). It was one of the smallest at the Combine. Doesn't seem to have hurt him during his college playing days though. He didn't have a reputation for drops or fumbles.

Playoffs 03-01-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2130694)
You know kubiak has to be creaming his pants over this guy. White...

I'd think Gary's wife will be disappointed to hear this. :truck:

I was more impressed by Woods & Hamilton but, you know, as football players.

thunderkyss 03-01-2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro (Post 2130692)
I would not have a problem if we took Swope in the 2nd. I see him as a 80+ reception guy by year two.

It would depend on who they selected & passed on in the first.

If we were to have traded out of the first & managed 3 second round picks, I wouldn't mind that at all.

badboy 03-01-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2130694)
You know kubiak has to be creaming his pants over this guy. White, from A&M, fast and has good size. We will probably draft him in the first round.

"Yeah, whats up with that?" signed Posey, Martin and Lestar Jean.

otisbean 03-01-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2130750)
It would depend on who they selected & passed on in the first.

If we were to have traded out of the first & managed 3 second round picks, I wouldn't mind that at all.

I would love to see us trade out of the first, but I think our haul would be a 2 and a 4 (if the 2 is top 10) or a 2 and a 3 (if the 2 is mid round). There are so many good WRs in the draft, and I'm not sure there's a huge difference between the top 10 guys this year.

The intriguing this about Swope is his blocking ability (a big plus for our O) and his ability to run after the catch. Now maybe some of those throws that are a yard or 2 short of the first down marker will turn into actual first downs

thunderkyss 03-01-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by otisbean (Post 2130765)
I would love to see us trade out of the first, but I think our haul would be a 2 and a 4 (if the 2 is top 10) or a 2 and a 3 (if the 2 is mid round). There are so many good WRs in the draft, and I'm not sure there's a huge difference between the top 10 guys this year.

Right. We would most likely get a 2nd & a 4th. We would have to package that 4th with something else to acquire another 2nd. That would be three 2nd round picks if you include our original 2nd.

I don't think anyone is going to give us two 2nds for our 1st.

Corrosion 03-01-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Insideop (Post 2130733)
I wouldn't have a problem with them getting Swope in the 2nd either but I'm not sure he will be there that late. After that 4.34 forty at the Combine, he's climbing up the draft boards. What I like about him, besides his speed, is his toughness. Saw this article in the chron this morning about him: http://www.chron.com/sports/aggies/a...ed-4319023.php Probably his biggest drawback or concern is his hand size (8 1/2"). It was one of the smallest at the Combine. Doesn't seem to have hurt him during his college playing days though. He didn't have a reputation for drops or fumbles.

Speaking of hand size .... Im a big dude , 6'3" 235 with catchers mitts for hands .... My 14 year old son is ~5'6' 100lbs soaking wet and his hands are bigger than mine .... and my shoes are too small for him.

Number19 03-01-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX (Post 2130428)
But, considering how much trouble the Texans had matching up to the Patriots, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Texans react (or overreact) and look long at Brown, who could match up with RB and TE in the passing game perhaps better than anyone on the board. Brown is an explosive player who reminds me of former Miami Hurricane star Sean Spence. But, Brown didn't endear himself to any teams at the Combine for choosing not to workout after gaining 12 pounds in the off-season.http://www.thesidelineview.com/colum...ne-draft-board

The reason Brown did not participate in the combine is not because he has gained weight, but because he has a shoulder injury, the same injury which kept him from participating in the Senior Bowl. No information on the injury has been released other than an MRI has shown a "concerning injury". Teams which had their eye on Brown are worried and looking toward Kansas State's pro day for answers on his condition.

otisbean 03-01-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2130772)
Right. We would most likely get a 2nd & a 4th. We would have to package that 4th with something else to acquire another 2nd. That would be three 2nd round picks if you include our original 2nd.

I don't think anyone is going to give us two 2nds for our 1st.

Got ya. I would literally backflip if we ended up with 3 second rounders

Texn4life 03-01-2013 03:59 PM

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The Crazy thing is I said last year I would've drafted Swope in the 3rd round if he came out early. That's how high I was on him after his Junior year. I've seen people comment on how he doesn't play as fast as his time, but he made a lot o big plays with Tannehil at QB last year and ran away from people regularly. They used him a little different this year and it took him about 4 or 5 games to really get into a rhythm with Johnny. Kid is gonna be a player. I don't care what color he is.


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