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76Texan 02-22-2013 09:17 AM

NFL Combine
 
The OL and TE measurements are in.

Man, some of these TEs are just big and long.
I haven't watched them all yet, but Fauria and Toilolo are definitely sleepers.
They will probably climb up the boards soon.

Playoffs 02-22-2013 11:21 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Barkley is unimpressive in interview to me. I have big concerns about his shoulder after the way he answered those questions. (Too much CourtTV)

I wouldn't touch him.
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Funny, there's an O-Lineman with a 30" arm length.
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QB Mike Glennon is 6'7".

76Texan 02-22-2013 12:25 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
I actually think it's best to trade away our first rounder for future draft choice; draft a receiver in the second or take a flyer with a guy like Marcus Davis later on. There are 3 guys in the next draft that I think highly of: Marquise Lee USC, Sammy Watkins Clemson, and the big dude from Rutgers that I forgot the name (he's at least 6'5 and is pretty fast and quick for that size.)

That is unless we don't have to sell out the farm to get Patterson or Allen.

Playoffs 02-23-2013 09:40 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
~24% of all Combine participants this year are from the SEC.

Terron Armstead 6'5" 306 lbs ran an unofficial 4.65 40 yard dash --- fastest ever for an O-Lineman.

How fast is 4.65???

2012 -- Juron Criner, Jeff Fuller, Darius Hanks, Jerrell Jackson, Gerell Robinson all ran in the 4.6s
... and they're all Wide Receivers!

beerlover 02-23-2013 09:54 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Texans will pick up one of these athletic OL.

Playoffs 02-23-2013 09:59 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2128573)
I actually think it's best to trade away our first rounder for future draft choice...

Disagree. This is one of the deepest drafts in years at many positions. I'd be stocking up on players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2128801)
Texans will pick up one of these athletic OL.

Yep, it's a deep in the top & middle rounds class.

Playoffs 02-23-2013 10:41 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Cooper & Fisher look so darn good out of this first group.

Fluker not so much -- have to go to tape.

badboy 02-23-2013 10:44 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
We have too many weaknesses to put off until next year. I am ok with trade down from #27 into high second.

Lucky 02-23-2013 11:41 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2128573)
I actually think it's best to trade away our first rounder for future draft choice

No one trades a 1st for just a future 1st. That makes zero sense. What does happen is that a team will trade their 1st for a current 2nd and a future 1st. Or trade a current 2nd outright for a future 1st. I don't think the Texans will do either, but you see trades like this pretty often.

IDEXAN 02-23-2013 11:51 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2128801)
Texans will pick up one of these athletic OL.

I really wonder how they feel about Newt as the long-term answer at RT ?
If they have reservations, I think we could actually see them using their top pick for a Lane Johnson IF he was still on their Board at 27 ?

76Texan 02-23-2013 11:52 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2128805)
Disagree. This is one of the deepest drafts in years at many positions. I'd be stocking up on players.



Yep, it's a deep in the top & middle rounds class.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2128853)
No one trades a 1st for just a future 1st. That makes zero sense. What does happen is that a team will trade their 1st for a current 2nd and a future 1st. Or trade a current 2nd outright for a future 1st. I don't think the Texans will do either, but you see trades like this pretty often.

It's because that this draft is deep from the 2nd round on that I think it makes sense to trade our first. If we can get a 2nd and a future first, I'm all for it.

That way we can package our two firsts next year to move up to get a replacement for AJ; otherwise, we will never in a position to get a marquis player.

b0ng 02-23-2013 11:53 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
There are a ton of Oline guys running sub 5 second 40's. This is definitely a good group of prospects, even in the mid to late rounds.

IDEXAN 02-23-2013 11:54 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2128853)
No one trades a 1st for just a future 1st. That makes zero sense. What does happen is that a team will trade their 1st for a current 2nd and a future 1st. Or trade a current 2nd outright for a future 1st. I don't think the Texans will do either, but you see trades like this pretty often.

A favorite Belichick maneuver.

76Texan 02-23-2013 11:56 AM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Playoffs (Post 2128798)
~24% of all Combine participants this year are from the SEC.

Terron Armstead 6'5" 306 lbs ran an unofficial 4.65 40 yard dash --- fastest ever for an O-Lineman.

How fast is 4.65???

2012 -- Juron Criner, Jeff Fuller, Darius Hanks, Jerrell Jackson, Gerell Robinson all ran in the 4.6s
... and they're all Wide Receivers!

Looks like my dark horse is no longer in obscurity.

I think the Texans will draft an OT and let Newton be the swing tackle.

NCTexan 02-23-2013 12:17 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
The TE Vance McDonald had great form through out the bench press. Looks like an intriguing prospect.

Looks like people doubt his blocking though.

Lucky 02-23-2013 12:19 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IDEXAN (Post 2128855)
I really wonder how they feel about Newt as the long-term answer at RT ?

I know how I feel about Newton. He's not the long term (or short term) answer at RT. I do think he can be a decent guard, however.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2128856)
That way we can package our two firsts next year to move up to get a replacement for Schaub

fify.

b0ng 02-23-2013 12:33 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Eifert ran a 4.6
Ertz 4.72
Escobar 4.88

IDEXAN 02-23-2013 12:43 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b0ng (Post 2128857)
There are a ton of Oline guys running sub 5 second 40's. This is definitely a good group of prospects, even in the mid to late rounds.

Watching 300 pounders run sub 5 second 40s is pretty impressive at one level, but practically speaking it's about the 23rd or maybe 31st most important thing that the coachs look at when it comes to evaluating a prospect to becoming an NFL offensive lineman.

76Texan 02-23-2013 01:04 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b0ng (Post 2128868)
Eifert ran a 4.6
Ertz 4.72
Escobar 4.88

Another guy to watch is the small TE from Arkansas, Chris Gragg.
He ran a 4'44 forty. He originally played WR but doesn't have the lateral agility.
With a 6th or a 7th pick, he can be used in lieu of Walter in the blocking department while can still threaten deep.

Injury is hurting his stock, so I think he could be a steal in the late rounds.

Another dark horse of mine is the OT Rogers Gaines from Tenn St.
Huge guy with long arms (6'6-330 something, nearly 37" arm).
He's a project (but did not give up any sack in his Sr. season).
I think we can afford a 6th or 7th on him.

b0ng 02-23-2013 01:20 PM

Re: NFL Combine
 
Te'o press conference going on. Kind of awkward.


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