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Jules Winnfield 02-18-2013 05:19 PM

When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Tried a trick play?

A fake field goal?

A fake punt?

An onside kick (not when your behind and trying to catch up)?

A trick return on kick return?

When people say Kubiak is not conservative all those questions run through my head.

When was the last time Gary did something ballsy?

For all the flak Rex Ryan gets people have forgotten how great a coach he is. He had a lot of injuries yet i see him make great coaching calls, ballsy moves. Look at Jim Harbaugh switching over from alex smith to kapernick.

BALLS.

Ditto belicheck. Sean Payton onside kick to start the half at the superbowl. Ditto John Harbaugh with the fake field goal even though it didnt work. Even something like using a great wide out as a defensive back on end of game hail mary plays the way randy moss was used or julio jones this year.

BALLS.

What do we have? A coach whose afraid to look at crucial field goal kicks.

NO BALLS.

Can you ever envision Kubiak making those gutsy calls? Yea, me neither.

High risk, High reward. No guts, No glory.

GNTLEWOLF 02-18-2013 05:28 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
I don't think you get it! gary Kubiak is an offensive Guru. Once you reach that level you don't have to resort to cheap trickery. You just install your vanilla offense and keep pounding the opposition. Sooner or later they come to the realization they are facing a Genious/Guru and they roll over and give up. I mean why fight against the obviously superior mind?
So don't you come here and say anything bad against the smartest guy in the room, because sooner or later he will show all you doubters. He will win the superbowl, even if it takes him 100 years. And then all you people who were small minded enough to doubt him will see how wrong you were!

Double Barrel 02-18-2013 05:32 PM

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Playoffs 02-18-2013 05:37 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Yes, Gary Kubiak should be more like Rex Ryan.

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Wolf 02-18-2013 05:38 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
the whole "he doesn't look at field goals" is an overrated excuse to bash Gary IMO. He doesn't look at them if we are down by two or up by twenty. Doesn't really matter.

I figure it is a superstition with him.


If I recall, I believe I have seen Texan players do it too.


As far as a fake punt.I thought we did one this year and it didn't work. I could be wrong.

As far as trick kick returns. Hell They we're so bad, we need to stick to the basics

A trick play. Last one I remember was Chris Brown throwing an int

And Kubiak got bashed hard on this board about it.

dream_team 02-18-2013 05:57 PM

Yes Kubiak is a conservative coach. What's your point?

And your post lost alot of credibility when you brought up Rex Ryan.

Rey 02-18-2013 06:08 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Playcalling style aside, i don't think kubiak is good enough at pressing the right buttons at the right time with the team.

Hopefully he's learning after all these years on the job.

Brisco_County 02-18-2013 06:39 PM

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Gary could benefit from a little creativity and risk taking, but when you have a philosophy behind your scheme, you roll with it 100%, and everyone has to be on board. You don't mash ideas and adulterate your philosophy unnecessarily. That simply undermines the philosophy and prevents its optimization.

It makes me think of when Favre played on the Jets. He goes out and gunslings downfield bombs that get intercepted, and lipreaders spot Mangini saying, "That's not what we do here."

Trickeration and aggressive risks are not part of the philosophy. Love it or hate it, it's not what we do here.

ThaShark316 02-18-2013 07:24 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Spare me.

He's still taking heat for that RB pass in Jacksonville.

Texan_Bill 02-18-2013 07:29 PM

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Last time? Half back pass that went horribly wrong - I believe it was Chris Brown

Field goals that Kubiak doesn't watch? Could it be Kris Brown?? Or more than likely he knows the approximater % of that kick and he is A) thinking about what stalled during that drive and B) thinking about the next drive.

Much ado about nothing.

Big Lou 02-18-2013 08:21 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 2127029)
Spare me.

He's still taking heat for that RB pass in Jacksonville.

Beat me to it. Probably when we still had multiple Chris/Kris Browns on the team........

ThaShark316 02-18-2013 08:27 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Lou (Post 2127065)
Beat me to it. Probably when we still had multiple Chris/Kris Browns on the team........


Sometimes when I see these types of threads, man , I just go http://imageshack.us/a/img35/5463/raydisgusted.png...

Just stop.

steelbtexan 02-18-2013 08:47 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill (Post 2127032)
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Last time? Half back pass that went horribly wrong - I believe it was Chris Brown

Field goals that Kubiak doesn't watch? Could it be Kris Brown?? Or more than likely he knows the approximater % of that kick and he is A) thinking about what stalled during that drive and B) thinking about the next drive.

Much ado about nothing.

AGGGGHHHHHHHH the Browns, thanks for the memories.

Gary is stubborn and ultra conservative, an Aggie trademark.

It's why I doubt the Texans will ever win a SB under his watch. I hope I'm wrong. Back when Gary was hired would fans have been on board with his hiring if they would've known that the team would be in the position it's in today?

I think 75% would be, BoB is counting on that.

ArlingtonTexan 02-18-2013 09:22 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2127079)
AGGGGHHHHHHHH the Browns, thanks for the memories.

Gary is stubborn and ultra conservative, an Aggie trademark.

It's why I doubt the Texans will ever win a SB under his watch. I hope I'm wrong. Back when Gary was hired would fans have been on board with his hiring if they would've known that the team would be in the position it's in today?

I think 75% would be, BoB is counting on that.

If you would have said

12-4 season
2 time defending division champion
a top 5 RB
top 5 WR
an Under 25 year old defensive player of the year
a top 10 defense in points allowed

knowing nothing else, it would have been silly not to take that seven seasons ago. The perception would that you were one of the best teams in the league and Superbowl contender.

.......

Now the weak finish, QB who has seemingly topped out, and team with multiple clear holes thing makes a big difference, but we all know that and have over discussed the bad parts of where the Texans are at.

Texan_Bill 02-18-2013 09:48 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2127079)
AGGGGHHHHHHHH the Browns, thanks for the memories.

Gary is stubborn and ultra conservative, an Aggie trademark.

It's why I doubt the Texans will ever win a SB under his watch. I hope I'm wrong. Back when Gary was hired would fans have been on board with his hiring if they would've known that the team would be in the position it's in today?

I think 75% would be, BoB is counting on that.

That's what I live for, bringing up the "Browns" ;), that said I'm an Aggie and I'm very stubborn.

You will be wrong! That said, if your are wrong, as a Texans fan, you will be happy to be wrong, no?? :D

chicagotexan2 02-18-2013 09:59 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
When was the last time someone used a character from pulp fiction as an avatar?

Texan_Bill 02-18-2013 10:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chicagotexan2 (Post 2127113)
When was the last time someone used a character from pulp fiction as an avatar?

Damn good question!!!

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This uncomfortable watch up my ass!!

For you!!

Playoffs 02-18-2013 11:14 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Kubes needs to chunk the deuce with Ryan brahs.

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Then he'd be a real Coach, yo.

tru80texan 02-18-2013 11:29 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 2127029)
Spare me.

He's still taking heat for that RB pass in Jacksonville.

Young Shanahan called that play & Kubiak ok'd it according to his defense of it. Maybe not the best play call w/ the pitiful joke for a RB we had in Chris Brown, but it was creative & something that this offense has lost under the vanilla combo of Dennison & Kubiak. I think the play had more potential had a better RB been available. Just my thoughts...

Brisco_County 02-18-2013 11:47 PM

Re: When was the last time Gary Kubiak.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2127095)
If you would have said

12-4 season
2 time defending division champion
a top 5 RB
top 5 WR
an Under 25 year old defensive player of the year
a top 10 defense in points allowed

knowing nothing else, it would have been silly not to take that seven seasons ago. The perception would that you were one of the best teams in the league and Superbowl contender.

.......

Now the weak finish, QB who has seemingly topped out, and team with multiple clear holes thing makes a big difference, but we all know that and have over discussed the bad parts of where the Texans are at.

No one can complain about where Kubiak has brought this team. When the players execute according to the system, the Texans win. What Kubiak and staff need to work on is getting consistency out of the players.


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