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srrono 02-07-2013 09:50 PM

NYJ cut Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, & Jason Smith
 
middle linebacker Bart Scott, starting outside linebacker Calvin Pace, and offensive tackle Jason Smith. Before the cuts become official, the Jets are projected to be $23 million over the projected 2013 cap, but these cuts would save them $27.7 million.

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thunderkyss 02-07-2013 09:52 PM

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Lucky 02-07-2013 11:35 PM

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Jason Smith is interesting. I realize he's busted out of two teams. But Smith fits the Texans profile in that he's a good athlete and an ex-TE. I just wonder if he would improve under a new scheme and scenery?

srrono 02-07-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky (Post 2122613)
Jason Smith is interesting. I realize he's busted out of two teams. But Smith fits the Texans profile in that he's a good athlete and an ex-TE. I just wonder if he would improve under a new scheme and scenery?

Being a former #2 overall and from Baylor I am sure he is on the Texans radar good or bad.

Rey 02-07-2013 11:48 PM

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I'd look at Bart Scott. Not an everydown MLB anymore, but could be good depth. Plus he'd bring some mote attitude and toughness to the defense.

srrono 02-19-2013 03:54 PM

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NYJ cut Safety E.Smith and TE J.Baker today

Double Barrel 02-19-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2122618)
I'd look at Bart Scott. Not an everydown MLB anymore, but could be good depth. Plus he'd bring some mote attitude and toughness to the defense.

I agree. If the price is right, the Texans could always use another MLB, and the dude certainly brings a fire in his passion for the game.

CloakNNNdagger 02-19-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2122618)
I'd look at Bart Scott. Not an everydown MLB anymore, but could be good depth. Plus he'd bring some mote attitude and toughness to the defense.

Keep in mind that he just underwent surgery on a turf toe just 4 weeks ago. Turf toe does not usually require surgery. But sometimes a player will develop a large bone spur around the toe joint that needs to be taken out. The joint becomes arthritic and the cartilage gets thin and the bone spurs start to form around it. Removing the spurs can bring relief, but many times you still haven't addressed the thing that caused the bone spurs in the first place and you still have arthritis. Just because you remove the bone spur, the joint can remain abnormal.

The prognosis is generally pretty good as far as the ability to return to action, but it's relatively poor in the sense that you never really cure the condition. Essentially this becomes an arthritic condition. The longer the player is in the league, the greater the chances are that he will progress his arthritis, which means he becomes more susceptible to more arthritis, more bone spurs, repeat injury and so on.

Some players can finish out their careers half way decently. Others end up like Deion Sanders. But the need for surgery is not what you want to hear. Prior to injury, Scott had a streak of 119 straight games. He only missed the one game, but he finished with an eight-year low in tackles (60) and was definitely not an impact player for the Jets in 2012.

He did say that he would take a "pay cut" before the Jets released him, but I would say that it should have to be a significant one for the Texans to even consider him.......especially as a 2 down backup.

ArlingtonTexan 02-19-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2127441)
I agree. If the price is right, the Texans could always use another MLB, and the dude certainly brings a fire in his passion for the game.

He would give us the same thing that Brady james did this year if not less. I don't care about fire and leadership, when the play has been minimally productive and slow in league of youth and speed.

Double Barrel 02-20-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlingtonTexan (Post 2127568)
He would give us the same thing that Brady james did this year if not less. I don't care about fire and leadership, when the play has been minimally productive and slow in league of youth and speed.

Good point about physical limitations.

I do want to see more fire and leadership from someone not named Brian Cushing, though. I dig JJ Watt, but he's not the Ray Lewis kind of motivator that Cushing appears to be. I saw a noticeable difference in attitude from our defense after Cushing went down.

handswarmer 02-20-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2122618)
I'd look at Bart Scott. Not an everydown MLB anymore.

"Can't Play!"

El Tejano 02-21-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by srrono (Post 2127435)
NYJ cut Safety E.Smith and TE J.Baker today

Let's talk about these two. Although I think our staff believes in developing the young guys we have, I do believe with Quin looking at FA this might be a good look for us.

TE J. Baker, correct me if I'm wrong, is a better blocking TE than what we possibly have on the roster.

thunderkyss 02-21-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by El Tejano (Post 2128039)
Let's talk about these two. Although I think our staff believes in developing the young guys we have, I do believe with Quin looking at FA this might be a good look for us.

TE J. Baker, correct me if I'm wrong, is a better blocking TE than what we possibly have on the roster.

Our staff doesn't have a problem picking up & developing young FAs, just not many of the young ones have panned out.

CloakNNNdagger 02-21-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by El Tejano (Post 2128039)
Let's talk about these two. Although I think our staff believes in developing the young guys we have, I do believe with Quin looking at FA this might be a good look for us.

TE J. Baker, correct me if I'm wrong, is a better blocking TE than what we possibly have on the roster.

Read this piece and tell me who this reminds you of?

Josh Baker working to fill versatile role in Jets offense

El Tejano 02-21-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger (Post 2128058)
Read this piece and tell me who this reminds you of?

Josh Baker working to fill versatile role in Jets offense

So another James Casey huh?

CloakNNNdagger 02-21-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by El Tejano (Post 2128160)
So another James Casey huh?

Yep. And........

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According to NFL Transactions LB Bart Scott (Jets ) & Josh Baker (Jets) both "failed physical" #freeagency #NYJets
Just to remind people, Baker was waived in August 2012 and then placed on IR after surgery on his ACL..........now failed his physical (which means that he was not ready to return to expected activities.......not that he was not able to perform well)........NOT a promising turn of events.


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