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CloakNNNdagger 02-07-2013 03:41 PM

Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
Only better than the Jets, Rams, Raider, Jags, Chargers, Cardinals.

3 and Out Percentages 2012

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Three-and-out Percentage is a measure of the rate at which a teams drives end as three-and-outs, which is calculated by taking a teams total three-and-outs and dividing it by the total drives of the team.

A drive is a series of plays by a team that only ends when a team turns over the ball, scores or the game ends while a three-and-out is a drive that end after a team is unable to gain a first down in the first three plays of a drive.

The lower the Third-and-out Percentage as it suggests that a team has a low rate of turning over the ball quickly to the opposition.
Lots of ways to try to interpret it..........none of them good.
It's also interesting to see how we fared in 2011 and 2010.

bOODRO87 02-07-2013 03:45 PM

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:clap:

- McNair.

eriadoc 02-07-2013 03:52 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
In 2005, the Texans were 27th in the league, with 26.01%. 2012 they were 26th with 26.24%. In 2010, they were 2nd with 17.xx%. Not sure what to make of that. It has crossed my mind that this offense may be worse now than it was in 2010, and it's not because of the RB or WR position.

CretorFrigg 02-07-2013 03:54 PM

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I'm not surprised at this sad statistic. There were way too many 3 and out drives by the Texans last season. I don't know if it's playcalling or simply just a lack of execution, although I'm leaning towards the latter because it appears the plays are there. Players are getting open, but either Schaub can't make the decision in time, rushes the decision, or completely breaks down because there's a little bit of pressure. Something needs to be done. We can't just stick with the status quo and hope it works next time.

Playoffs 02-07-2013 04:05 PM

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Scoring offense has been pretty steady...

2012 ..8th (26)
2011 10th (23.8)
2010 ..9th (24.4)

We led the league in time of possession in 2012 & 2011.

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Dutchrudder 02-07-2013 04:26 PM

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The Ravens were 24th in the 2012 regular season. The offense was clearly not doing it's job, so the OC got sacked week 15, Jim Caldwell took over and the rest is history...

:thinking:

(btw, this is Offensive 3 and outs. Texans defense was very good at forcing 3 and outs)

Jules Winnfield 02-07-2013 04:33 PM

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6 pro bowlers on offense but its the defense fault....:kitten:

Double Barrel 02-07-2013 04:48 PM

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There are a few stats that truly reveal the soul of an offense. Turnovers, red zone efficiency, and 3rd down conversion percentages don't lie.

thunderkyss 02-07-2013 04:53 PM

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Subscribed......

I'll give you my spin later. For now though, carry on.

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Originally Posted by Double Barrel (Post 2122512)
There are a few stats that truly reveal the soul of an offense. Turnovers, red zone efficiency, and 3rd down conversion percentages don't lie.

That's true.

silvrhand 02-07-2013 07:06 PM

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How many of them are runs vs. passes?

ThaShark316 02-07-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield (Post 2122507)
6 pro bowlers on offense but its the defense fault....:kitten:

It's everyone's fault.

Same ol sports fans in this era. It's not just one group or one player or one...ANYTHING; especially in this, the ultimate team sport. 2 most important games vs. the same team; the O was ass and so was the defense. Yeah, I'll blame the O, I'll blame the D, and I'll blame the wack ass special teams.

Different strokes for different folks, but this **** here is ridiculous.

thunderkyss 02-07-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
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Originally Posted by ThaShark316 (Post 2122559)
It's everyone's fault.

Same ol sports fans in this era. It's not just one group or one player or one...ANYTHING; especially in this, the ultimate team sport. 2 most important games vs. the same team; the O was ass and so was the defense. Yeah, I'll blame the O, I'll blame the D, and I'll blame the wack ass special teams.

Hey.... it didn't get out of hand till halfway through the third qtr the second time, that's progress. If we play the Patriots three more times, we'll beat them.

CloakNNNdagger 02-07-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderkyss (Post 2122574)
Hey.... it didn't get out of hand till halfway through the third qtr the second time, that's progress. If we play the Patriots three more times, we'll beat them.

Since we are known for seldom playing well for more than 2 quarters, it is just as likely that those games get out of hand during the 1st quarter..........:kitten:

Uncle Rico 02-07-2013 08:55 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
on third and long you double Dre and the rest works itself out for the defense. no passing threats. no FB decoy passes. no creativity. butterfingers and brickhands running around trying to convert.

Wolf6151 02-07-2013 09:40 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
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Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield (Post 2122507)
6 pro bowlers on offense but its the defense fault....:kitten:

:bravo: This is Kubiaks fault.

Goatcheese 02-07-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
It doesn't seem to be a consistent stat, or one that's particularly relevant to scoring. The Texans have been at the top (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010) and bottom (2006, 2011, 2012) of the list during the Kubiak era and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between this stat and actual success.

It's an interesting "hmm" stat, but not much else.

thunderkyss 02-07-2013 10:56 PM

Re: Three-and-out Percentage - Texans 26th in NFL
 
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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 2122610)
It doesn't seem to be a consistent stat, or one that's particularly relevant to scoring. The Texans have been at the top (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010) and bottom (2006, 2011, 2012) of the list during the Kubiak era and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between this stat and actual success.

It's an interesting "hmm" stat, but not much else.

It's definitely interesting.

But like you said, it doesn't mean what we want it to mean. We've scored a lot of points, we ranked high in T.O.P. But we ranked 26th in 3 & out.

But just because a team did not go 3 & out doesn't mean they scored. They may not have even crossed the 50 yard line.

dream_team 02-07-2013 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatcheese (Post 2122610)
It doesn't seem to be a consistent stat, or one that's particularly relevant to scoring. The Texans have been at the top (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010) and bottom (2006, 2011, 2012) of the list during the Kubiak era and there doesn't seem to be any correlation between this stat and actual success.

It's an interesting "hmm" stat, but not much else.

I agree! T.O.P. and actual points scored mean more to me.

It would be nice to not have a 3&out so much, but our offense seems to still be effective.

Brisco_County 02-08-2013 12:50 AM

To me it says that big, downfield plays materialize on 1st and 2nd when the opponent is left guessing. But on 3rd and long, when they know it's a pass, we cannot impose the pass. That explains red zone scoring too.

htowntexans1985 02-08-2013 07:59 AM

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Them qb draws and 5 yard slant routes on 3rd & 8 sure are effective Kubiak!! :fingergun:


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