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Doppelganger 01-21-2013 12:17 PM

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Hello all. Thanks for reading. This is Doppelmock: Version 4.0. In addition to adding a mock, I also identified some potentially interesting UDFA targets. I expect some of these picks will be somewhat controversial, so let me have it!

1. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama, 6'5, 311lbs, 5.10
I listed Jones as OL because he can play all 5 spots. In 2009 he started 14 games as a Guard. As a guard he was a big reason for Mark Ingram winning the Heisman. In 2010, Jones stayed at OG and became an All-SEC selection. In 2011, he was moved to LT and did an excellent job in pass protection and run blocking. In 2012, he was moved to Center and once again, Jones delivered. He dominated 1st round DT Sheldon Richardson and 350lb NT Kwame Geathers. I think Jones could play anywhere on the line. At the moment, only 2 spots are definitely taken: LT and C. Jones could be an upgrade at any of the three spots. Based on what I have seen, in the short term, I would start him at RT as I think he is better than Newton. As the needs of the OL change, he can be moved around in order to give the team the best possible 5 OL. Nic Saban favorably compared Jones to Bruce Matthews. Very high respect there. If he is there at #27, I'd take him.

2. Robert Woods, WR, University of Southern California, 6'1, 180lbs, 4.40
Its amazing what can happen in a year. A year ago people were talking about Woods as a potential top 10 player. Now he has fallen to maybe the #10 Wr. Previously, Texan fans were wondering if they should trade up in the 2013 draft to get him. Fast forward a year and now he has dropped all the way to the second round. His loss is the Texans gain. Despite a nagging ankle injury, He will be ready to go once camp arrives. Woods' game is that of explosion and getting behind DBs. As a result he struggled due to his ankle injury. However, a fully healed Woods would be explosive. He has great hands, runs good routes, and is a threat to score anytime he gets the ball. He would start immediately as a #2 receiver opposite AJ. He has the talent to be a legit #1 receiver down the line.

3. Trevardo WIlliams, OLB, Connecticut, 6'2, 233lbs, 4.68
Under the radar potentially sleeper OLB prospect. He had very nice numbers in 2012: He had 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble. In 2011 he had 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and 2 forced fumbles. He has gotten better every year. and would be a great addition to the Phillips OLB group.

3. Isaiah Johnson, S, Georgia Tech, 6'2, 208, 4.57
Georgia Tech stinks, but Johnson is awesome. In 2012 he had 87 tackles, 1 sack, 1 interception and 4.5 tackles for a loss. In 2011 he has 78 tackles, three interceptions, three tackles for a loss, one sack and three passes broken up. In 2010 he had 46 tackles and three tackles for a loss, one interception, one forced fumble and one sack. Keep in mind his 2010 numbers were that of a true freshman. He has good size, speed, tackling ability, and reasonably good hands. In the Texans Defense, he could start out as a monster special teams player and provide ridiculously good depth/future starter capability.

4.Matt Scott, QB, Arizona, 6'3, 196lbs, 4.77
I know this is not the QB a lot of people want. However, let's face facts, Schaub is coming back next year. I say before you take a potential franchise QB, build the OL and give him a weapon. So, is Scott a franchise QB? probably not. But I think he has more ability than Yates or Keenum. He is a good sized QB, who could put on some weight. He was a resonbly good passer in 2012 and a passer completion of 60%. He threw for 3,620 yards with a 27/14 TD/INT ratio. He also ran for 632 yards and 6 touchdowns. The ability to move is important to the Kubioffense. More importantly a mobile QB may be able to avoid sacks. Finally, having running ability brings a whole new wrinkle to the playaction. A fake handoff could now also mean the QB running in the opposite way for a nice chunk of yards. He played as Foles' backup last year and has a lot of potential as a plus backup. I think he is better short and longterm than TJ Yates or Case Keenum and would make a fine backup. In the 2014 draft, the Texans can go after their next starter.

5 Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech, 6'2, 215lbs.
In the biggest game of the season, Jones shanked an important punt. I have seen a few of them like that this season. Allen won't shank important punts and can change field position. He has averaged 48 yards per punt. Last year he averaged 46.12. Here is the reason I take him: he won the 2011 Ray Guy award the last two years. He has beaten out really good punters like Bryan Anger, Brad Wing, Quin Sharp, Brian Stahovich, Kyle Martens, and Drew Butler. Allen can boom kickoffs too. Allen led the nation with 39 punts downed inside the 20 and 22 punts downed inside the 10. How many has Jones put inside the 20? 28 in 16 games. Allen put 39 punts inside the 20 in fewer games. Jones also averaged almost 5 yards per punt less than Allen. Oh, and Allen's longest punt of the year:72 yards.

5.Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia, 6'6, 350lbs
I am not sure why Geathers opted for the draft. With Jenkins gone he would be the starting NT for sure. Well, his loss is the Texans gain. Geathers is a big solid, hard to move NT. He has some athleticism and is not just a big tub of goo. He had 37 tackles, five tackles for a loss, a sack and a blocked kick in 2012. He was the team's defensive Spring MVP. Considering the players on that defense, its quite an accomplishment. He will likely play on First and second down where teams are more apt to try to run the ball. They will soon be in 3rd and long if they try to run against this behemouth!

6. Braden Wilson, FB, Kansas State, 6'4, 254lbs, 4.81
Old School. Wilson is an old school type of FB. A very strong lead blocker, He would instantly improve the run game. He also has some decent hands, though K State rarely threw the ball to him. He had five receptions for 34 yards in 2012 and has 17 receptions for 135 yards total in his career. He can work on this as he is creating holes for the RBs. This move allows Casey to move towards a TE spot to better take advantage of his skills.

7.Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State, 6'2, 239lbs, 4.70.
97 tackles, four tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks, three interceptions and three forced fumbles were Mauti's stat line for 2012. He was well on his way to a 2nd or 3rd round grade. Unfortunately he injured his knee. He also tore his right ACL in 2009 and his left ACL in 2011. Yes, he is a gamble, but its the 7th round. If he can stay healthy, you get 2/3 round talent in the 7th. If he doesn't pan out, its only a 7th rounder. No problem!

7. Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin, 6'4, 327lbs, 5.35
I know that he had some off the field issues/academic issues and was kicked off the Tennessee squad. But, he also has a mean streak and has a lot of athletic ability. In 2012 he had 42 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4 sacks and 1 pass broken up. In 2011 at Tennessee he had 28 tackles, 6.5 tackles for a loss, 1 sack, and one forced/recovered fumble. In 2010 he had 17 tackles with 3.5 tackles for a loss and 1 forced fumble. He has certainly gotten better every year. He is a massive NT with good athletic ability. He is not ready to play in the NFL, but with good coaching, and a good organization, he would be a great project. I think he could become a great rotational player. Imagine a rotation of Geathers and Hughes!

UDFA targets:
Here is a preliminary list of the UDFAs I would look into. Obviously there will be 5th/6th/7th rounders who fall into the UDFA group. As of right now, these are the players who may be available after the draft. If they are available, I would like to grab as many as I could. In the Doppelverse, I grab them all!

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State , 5'11, 215lbs, 4.46: off the field issues caused his stock to drop. Could be a great pickup.

Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico, 6'6, 250lbs, 4.65, younger brother of Brooks Reed. New Mexico struggled to pass and thus his numbers are low. Could be a very good value pick as a developmental big size Gronk type of TE.

James Wilson, OG, Florida, 6'3, 315lbs, 5.07: inconsistent. played well against LSU and struggled against Georgia. good depth potential.

Omar Hunter, DE, Florida, 6'2, 290lbs, 4.93. Solid, unspectacular. Could use better DL coaching and may end up as a depth player.

Kenny Tate, OLB, Maryland, 6'4, 230lbs, 4.71. Played a tweaner S/LB position. I would look to convert him into a ILB due to his coverage and tacking abilities.

Greg Reid, CB, Valdosta State, 5'8, 185lbs, 4.43. Projects as a punt/kick returner special teams player, and backup nickle corner.

Vaughn Telemaque, S, Miami, 6'2, 211, 4.59. Plus size, but raw.Needs some coaching. Has the size and speed to be a very good special teams player. Has the potential to be a solid depth player.

Denard Robinson, ATH, Michigan, 6’1, 193, 4.55. potential playmaker with the ball in his hand. good for bubble screens…throw a short pass his way and watch him break it... Maybe he could be used in a wildcat/pistol/spread package where he takes the direct snap and either pitches it to Foster or runs it himself. Maybe he would be a dynamic kick or punt returner. Who knows? Could be fun it nothing else.

Jordan Rodgers, QB, Vanderbilt, 6'1, 205lbs. Younger brother of Aaron Rogers. Not as polished. Needs time to develop and could become a nice backup/spot starter.

:popcorn:

Rey 01-21-2013 12:21 PM

I don't like drafting two nt's.

But good overall draft.

76Texan 01-21-2013 12:31 PM

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I like Jones and Woods.

Robinson and Tate should also be good as UDFAs.

Don't know enough about the rest yet.

I think that with recent runs on WRs, and this class being another deep one, the Texans should be able to find one that matches the skill sets they look for.

ralph 01-21-2013 12:35 PM

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My favorite mock posted here. Only problem I have is the QB you drafted. Texans don't need another backup QB, either pick a guy with big potential this year or wait til next year.

Doppelganger 01-21-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2113900)
I don't like drafting two nt's.

But good overall draft.

Why do you not care for drafting 2 NTs? My thought process was that Geathers had the potential to be a good run stopper/clogger. He would be able to take up multiple men in order to give Watt the other DE and the OLBs an opportunity for free hits on the QB or rushed QB throws. Hughes is a more athletic NT who would be able to rotate in and keep the NT spot fresh. Hughes also has a bit of a mean streak and can put some pressure on the QB. Of course as a 7th, he is a developmental player.

Since you don't like the 2 NT selections, who would you replace them with?

Doppelganger 01-21-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Texan (Post 2113912)
I like Jones and Woods.

Robinson and Tate should also be good as UDFAs.

Don't know enough about the rest yet.

I think that with recent runs on WRs, and this class being another deep one, the Texans should be able to find one that matches the skill sets they look for.

The more I see Jones, the more there is to like. I also have a feeling he may go in the 20's before the Texans select. I would seriously consider trading up for him. Guys who can play all 5 positions on the OL don't come around too often. Handing over a 4th to move up a few spots to grab Jones may be a really smart idea.

Woods seems like the kind of player the Texans need. He is able to get separation from the DBs and has good consistent hands. Too many of the Texans WRs simply don't have both. Walters has good hands but can't get separation. Posey/Martin/Jean are all unproven. Martin and Jean have separation, but have dropped passes. Posey looked like he had the potential but broke his foot. Woods doesn't have the elite size, but speed, separation, route running, and hands can make up for that.

Doppelganger 01-21-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ralph (Post 2113920)
My favorite mock posted here. Only problem I have is the QB you drafted. Texans don't need another backup QB, either pick a guy with big potential this year or wait til next year.

Thank you!

I can understand your perspective. However, I think Scott is an upgrade over Keenum and Yates. He has a good strong arm and can throw the deep ball accurately. He is accurate. He is elusive and can pick up yards on the ground as well. Yates, like Schaub, doesn't have that super strong arm that can throw accurately down the field. Yates, like Schaub, tends to underthrow or have difficulty hitting players in stride. While he is certainly more elusive, he is not a scrambler.

Scott, to me looks like a Cody Carlson type of very good backup. While Yates did fine last year, the defense really carried him. In preseason this year he didn't look great. I would trade him while he still has some value and make Scott the backup.

panamamyers 01-21-2013 02:41 PM

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The thing with the qb is that you aren't really going to get much drafting around 27th in the first round. The surefire guys are in the top 10.

So, I think you just keep taking guys in the 3-5 rounds and hope you eventually hit on one of those guys.

Goldensilence 01-21-2013 03:31 PM

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I'd be happy with this draft. Hit a lot of big points that need to be addressed.

Jones could be placed anywhere on the line and we get better. On board with the pick.

I'd be pleased if Woods dropped to us in the second or if Bray was on the fringe in the early second I'd move up to get him.

I like Johnson there in the 3rd. We really need to upgrade our depth at S and in case Quinn leaves we need a legit safety.

I love the idea of picking up a legit FB as well, I really think Casey's talent is being wasted at FB.

Overall like I said very solid draft.

beerlover 01-21-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2113894)
Hello all. Thanks for reading. This is Doppelmock: Version 4.0. In addition to adding a mock, I also identified some potentially interesting UDFA targets. I expect some of these picks will be somewhat controversial, so let me have it!

1. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama, 6'5, 311lbs, 5.10
I listed Jones as OL because he can play all 5 spots. In 2009 he started 14 games as a Guard. As a guard he was a big reason for Mark Ingram winning the Heisman. In 2010, Jones stayed at OG and became an All-SEC selection. In 2011, he was moved to LT and did an excellent job in pass protection and run blocking. In 2012, he was moved to Center and once again, Jones delivered. He dominated 1st round DT Sheldon Richardson and 350lb NT Kwame Geathers. I think Jones could play anywhere on the line. At the moment, only 2 spots are definitely taken: LT and C. Jones could be an upgrade at any of the three spots. Based on what I have seen, in the short term, I would start him at RT as I think he is better than Newton. As the needs of the OL change, he can be moved around in order to give the team the best possible 5 OL. Nic Saban favorably compared Jones to Bruce Matthews. Very high respect there. If he is there at #27, I'd take him.

2. Robert Woods, WR, University of Southern California, 6'1, 180lbs, 4.40
Its amazing what can happen in a year. A year ago people were talking about Woods as a potential top 10 player. Now he has fallen to maybe the #10 Wr. Previously, Texan fans were wondering if they should trade up in the 2013 draft to get him. Fast forward a year and now he has dropped all the way to the second round. His loss is the Texans gain. Despite a nagging ankle injury, He will be ready to go once camp arrives. Woods' game is that of explosion and getting behind DBs. As a result he struggled due to his ankle injury. However, a fully healed Woods would be explosive. He has great hands, runs good routes, and is a threat to score anytime he gets the ball. He would start immediately as a #2 receiver opposite AJ. He has the talent to be a legit #1 receiver down the line.

3. Trevardo WIlliams, OLB, Connecticut, 6'2, 233lbs, 4.68
Under the radar potentially sleeper OLB prospect. He had very nice numbers in 2012: He had 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble. In 2011 he had 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and 2 forced fumbles. He has gotten better every year. and would be a great addition to the Phillips OLB group.

3. Isaiah Johnson, S, Georgia Tech, 6'2, 208, 4.57
Georgia Tech stinks, but Johnson is awesome. In 2012 he had 87 tackles, 1 sack, 1 interception and 4.5 tackles for a loss. In 2011 he has 78 tackles, three interceptions, three tackles for a loss, one sack and three passes broken up. In 2010 he had 46 tackles and three tackles for a loss, one interception, one forced fumble and one sack. Keep in mind his 2010 numbers were that of a true freshman. He has good size, speed, tackling ability, and reasonably good hands. In the Texans Defense, he could start out as a monster special teams player and provide ridiculously good depth/future starter capability.

4.Matt Scott, QB, Arizona, 6'3, 196lbs, 4.77
I know this is not the QB a lot of people want. However, let's face facts, Schaub is coming back next year. I say before you take a potential franchise QB, build the OL and give him a weapon. So, is Scott a franchise QB? probably not. But I think he has more ability than Yates or Keenum. He is a good sized QB, who could put on some weight. He was a resonbly good passer in 2012 and a passer completion of 60%. He threw for 3,620 yards with a 27/14 TD/INT ratio. He also ran for 632 yards and 6 touchdowns. The ability to move is important to the Kubioffense. More importantly a mobile QB may be able to avoid sacks. Finally, having running ability brings a whole new wrinkle to the playaction. A fake handoff could now also mean the QB running in the opposite way for a nice chunk of yards. He played as Foles' backup last year and has a lot of potential as a plus backup. I think he is better short and longterm than TJ Yates or Case Keenum and would make a fine backup. In the 2014 draft, the Texans can go after their next starter.

5 Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech, 6'2, 215lbs.
In the biggest game of the season, Jones shanked an important punt. I have seen a few of them like that this season. Allen won't shank important punts and can change field position. He has averaged 48 yards per punt. Last year he averaged 46.12. Here is the reason I take him: he won the 2011 Ray Guy award the last two years. He has beaten out really good punters like Bryan Anger, Brad Wing, Quin Sharp, Brian Stahovich, Kyle Martens, and Drew Butler. Allen can boom kickoffs too. Allen led the nation with 39 punts downed inside the 20 and 22 punts downed inside the 10. How many has Jones put inside the 20? 28 in 16 games. Allen put 39 punts inside the 20 in fewer games. Jones also averaged almost 5 yards per punt less than Allen. Oh, and Allen's longest punt of the year:72 yards.

5.Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia, 6'6, 350lbs
I am not sure why Geathers opted for the draft. With Jenkins gone he would be the starting NT for sure. Well, his loss is the Texans gain. Geathers is a big solid, hard to move NT. He has some athleticism and is not just a big tub of goo. He had 37 tackles, five tackles for a loss, a sack and a blocked kick in 2012. He was the team's defensive Spring MVP. Considering the players on that defense, its quite an accomplishment. He will likely play on First and second down where teams are more apt to try to run the ball. They will soon be in 3rd and long if they try to run against this behemouth!

6. Braden Wilson, FB, Kansas State, 6'4, 254lbs, 4.81
Old School. Wilson is an old school type of FB. A very strong lead blocker, He would instantly improve the run game. He also has some decent hands, though K State rarely threw the ball to him. He had five receptions for 34 yards in 2012 and has 17 receptions for 135 yards total in his career. He can work on this as he is creating holes for the RBs. This move allows Casey to move towards a TE spot to better take advantage of his skills.

7.Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State, 6'2, 239lbs, 4.70.
97 tackles, four tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks, three interceptions and three forced fumbles were Mauti's stat line for 2012. He was well on his way to a 2nd or 3rd round grade. Unfortunately he injured his knee. He also tore his right ACL in 2009 and his left ACL in 2011. Yes, he is a gamble, but its the 7th round. If he can stay healthy, you get 2/3 round talent in the 7th. If he doesn't pan out, its only a 7th rounder. No problem!

7. Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin, 6'4, 327lbs, 5.35
I know that he had some off the field issues/academic issues and was kicked off the Tennessee squad. But, he also has a mean streak and has a lot of athletic ability. In 2012 he had 42 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4 sacks and 1 pass broken up. In 2011 at Tennessee he had 28 tackles, 6.5 tackles for a loss, 1 sack, and one forced/recovered fumble. In 2010 he had 17 tackles with 3.5 tackles for a loss and 1 forced fumble. He has certainly gotten better every year. He is a massive NT with good athletic ability. He is not ready to play in the NFL, but with good coaching, and a good organization, he would be a great project. I think he could become a great rotational player. Imagine a rotation of Geathers and Hughes!

UDFA targets:
Here is a preliminary list of the UDFAs I would look into. Obviously there will be 5th/6th/7th rounders who fall into the UDFA group. As of right now, these are the players who may be available after the draft. If they are available, I would like to grab as many as I could. In the Doppelverse, I grab them all!

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State , 5'11, 215lbs, 4.46: off the field issues caused his stock to drop. Could be a great pickup.

Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico, 6'6, 250lbs, 4.65, younger brother of Brooks Reed. New Mexico struggled to pass and thus his numbers are low. Could be a very good value pick as a developmental big size Gronk type of TE.

James Wilson, OG, Florida, 6'3, 315lbs, 5.07: inconsistent. played well against LSU and struggled against Georgia. good depth potential.

Omar Hunter, DE, Florida, 6'2, 290lbs, 4.93. Solid, unspectacular. Could use better DL coaching and may end up as a depth player.

Kenny Tate, OLB, Maryland, 6'4, 230lbs, 4.71. Played a tweaner S/LB position. I would look to convert him into a ILB due to his coverage and tacking abilities.

Greg Reid, CB, Valdosta State, 5'8, 185lbs, 4.43. Projects as a punt/kick returner special teams player, and backup nickle corner.

Vaughn Telemaque, S, Miami, 6'2, 211, 4.59. Plus size, but raw.Needs some coaching. Has the size and speed to be a very good special teams player. Has the potential to be a solid depth player.

Denard Robinson, ATH, Michigan, 6’1, 193, 4.55. potential playmaker with the ball in his hand. good for bubble screens…throw a short pass his way and watch him break it... Maybe he could be used in a wildcat/pistol/spread package where he takes the direct snap and either pitches it to Foster or runs it himself. Maybe he would be a dynamic kick or punt returner. Who knows? Could be fun it nothing else.

Jordan Rodgers, QB, Vanderbilt, 6'1, 205lbs. Younger brother of Aaron Rogers. Not as polished. Needs time to develop and could become a nice backup/spot starter.

:popcorn:

Fine work as usual although I find your timing a little unusual which probably says more in response to the Texans needs above all else.

I'm going to disagree with your #1 selection, not because he's not in discussion for BPA (I don't disagree with that) but feel strongly that Texans got a similar talent in the 4th rd. last year in Ben Jones.

Your not alone that feel Woods falls out of the first rd. but all the way til end of 2nd? He's too polished, very low risk & will impress @ combine/pro day. Great pick but would project late 1st early 2nd.

I like both Rutgers & Conneticut defensive players. This could be a very solid pick late 3rd.

Johnson is another solid pick. Could fit right in a depleted (via fa) revamped secondary with better ball skills.

Scott not so much a fan of but not a terrible pick. Would give him a shot to earn roster spot but that isn't saying much or what Joe FAN wants to hear which is why Texans need to address the future now & use Schaub to mentor the kid.

Rest of your picks I have as we'll so steller job of course. All would have a chance to make the roster & add much needed depth. A punter is a nessecary evil @ this point as well kick returner. Special teams must improve drastically.

BL :wesmantexanfan:

Doppelganger 01-21-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by panamamyers (Post 2113992)
The thing with the qb is that you aren't really going to get much drafting around 27th in the first round. The surefire guys are in the top 10.

So, I think you just keep taking guys in the 3-5 rounds and hope you eventually hit on one of those guys.

Slight disagreement. If you see a guy who you think is a franchise QB you gotta take him, even if you already have a QB on roster. Great example is Green Bay in 2005. They still have Brett Favre, but Aaron Rogers was there with the 24th selection. They pulled the trigger and got him, even though they still had Favre. Sometimes it works out, other times it does not. But, if you think the guy is a franchise QB, you gotta pull the trigger.

That said, here were the teams that made the playoffs this year:

Atlanta: Ryan-1st round, #3
San Francisco: Kapernick-2nd round, #45
Green Bay-Rogers-1st round #24
Washington-RGIII-1st round #2
Seattle: Wilson-3rd round, #75
Minnesota-Ponder-1st round #12

Denver, Manning-1st round #1
New England-Brady-6th round, #199
Houston: Schaub-3rd round, #90
Baltimore- Flaco, 1st round #18
Indianaplolis-Luck-1st round #1
Cincinnati: Dalton-2nd round, #35

A LOT of first rounders and a handful of non first rounders. If you want to throw in perennial playoff QBs like Manning(1st round #1), Roethlisberger, (1st round, #11), Brees (second round #32: thought would have been a first in today's 32 league), and Rivers 1st round, #4), and you see its pretty tough to succeed without a top draft pick QB.

So, I would say, don't overreach, but if he is there...get him.

beerlover 01-21-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2114038)
Slight disagreement. If you see a guy who you think is a franchise QB you gotta take him, even if you already have a QB on roster. Great example is Green Bay in 2005. They still have Brett Favre, but Aaron Rogers was there with the 24th selection. They pulled the trigger and got him, even though they still had Favre. Sometimes it works out, other times it does not. But, if you think the guy is a franchise QB, you gotta pull the trigger.

That said, here were the teams that made the playoffs this year:

Atlanta: Ryan-1st round, #3
San Francisco: Kapernick-2nd round, #45
Green Bay-Rogers-1st round #24
Washington-RGIII-1st round #2
Seattle: Wilson-3rd round, #75
Minnesota-Ponder-1st round #12

Denver, Manning-1st round #1
New England-Brady-6th round, #199
Houston: Schaub-3rd round, #90
Baltimore- Flaco, 1st round #18
Indianaplolis-Luck-1st round #1
Cincinnati: Dalton-2nd round, #35

A LOT of first rounders and a handful of non first rounders. If you want to throw in perennial playoff QBs like Manning(1st round #1), Roethlisberger, (1st round, #11), Brees (second round #32: thought would have been a first in today's 32 league), and Rivers 1st round, #4), and you see its pretty tough to succueed without a top draft pick QB.

So, I would say, don't overreach, but if he is there...get him.

Classic post my friend, somebody please rep him for me

badboy 01-21-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2113894)
Hello all. Thanks for reading. This is Doppelmock: Version 4.0. In addition to adding a mock, I also identified some potentially interesting UDFA targets. I expect some of these picks will be somewhat controversial, so let me have it!

1. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama, 6'5, 311lbs, 5.10
I listed Jones as OL because he can play all 5 spots. In 2009 he started 14 games as a Guard. As a guard he was a big reason for Mark Ingram winning the Heisman. In 2010, Jones stayed at OG and became an All-SEC selection. In 2011, he was moved to LT and did an excellent job in pass protection and run blocking. In 2012, he was moved to Center and once again, Jones delivered. He dominated 1st round DT Sheldon Richardson and 350lb NT Kwame Geathers. I think Jones could play anywhere on the line. At the moment, only 2 spots are definitely taken: LT and C. Jones could be an upgrade at any of the three spots. Based on what I have seen, in the short term, I would start him at RT as I think he is better than Newton. As the needs of the OL change, he can be moved around in order to give the team the best possible 5 OL. Nic Saban favorably compared Jones to Bruce Matthews. Very high respect there. If he is there at #27, I'd take him.

2. Robert Woods, WR, University of Southern California, 6'1, 180lbs, 4.40
Its amazing what can happen in a year. A year ago people were talking about Woods as a potential top 10 player. Now he has fallen to maybe the #10 Wr. Previously, Texan fans were wondering if they should trade up in the 2013 draft to get him. Fast forward a year and now he has dropped all the way to the second round. His loss is the Texans gain. Despite a nagging ankle injury, He will be ready to go once camp arrives. Woods' game is that of explosion and getting behind DBs. As a result he struggled due to his ankle injury. However, a fully healed Woods would be explosive. He has great hands, runs good routes, and is a threat to score anytime he gets the ball. He would start immediately as a #2 receiver opposite AJ. He has the talent to be a legit #1 receiver down the line.

3. Trevardo WIlliams, OLB, Connecticut, 6'2, 233lbs, 4.68
Under the radar potentially sleeper OLB prospect. He had very nice numbers in 2012: He had 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble. In 2011 he had 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and 2 forced fumbles. He has gotten better every year. and would be a great addition to the Phillips OLB group.

3. Isaiah Johnson, S, Georgia Tech, 6'2, 208, 4.57
Georgia Tech stinks, but Johnson is awesome. In 2012 he had 87 tackles, 1 sack, 1 interception and 4.5 tackles for a loss. In 2011 he has 78 tackles, three interceptions, three tackles for a loss, one sack and three passes broken up. In 2010 he had 46 tackles and three tackles for a loss, one interception, one forced fumble and one sack. Keep in mind his 2010 numbers were that of a true freshman. He has good size, speed, tackling ability, and reasonably good hands. In the Texans Defense, he could start out as a monster special teams player and provide ridiculously good depth/future starter capability.

4.Matt Scott, QB, Arizona, 6'3, 196lbs, 4.77
I know this is not the QB a lot of people want. However, let's face facts, Schaub is coming back next year. I say before you take a potential franchise QB, build the OL and give him a weapon. So, is Scott a franchise QB? probably not. But I think he has more ability than Yates or Keenum. He is a good sized QB, who could put on some weight. He was a resonbly good passer in 2012 and a passer completion of 60%. He threw for 3,620 yards with a 27/14 TD/INT ratio. He also ran for 632 yards and 6 touchdowns. The ability to move is important to the Kubioffense. More importantly a mobile QB may be able to avoid sacks. Finally, having running ability brings a whole new wrinkle to the playaction. A fake handoff could now also mean the QB running in the opposite way for a nice chunk of yards. He played as Foles' backup last year and has a lot of potential as a plus backup. I think he is better short and longterm than TJ Yates or Case Keenum and would make a fine backup. In the 2014 draft, the Texans can go after their next starter.

5 Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech, 6'2, 215lbs.
In the biggest game of the season, Jones shanked an important punt. I have seen a few of them like that this season. Allen won't shank important punts and can change field position. He has averaged 48 yards per punt. Last year he averaged 46.12. Here is the reason I take him: he won the 2011 Ray Guy award the last two years. He has beaten out really good punters like Bryan Anger, Brad Wing, Quin Sharp, Brian Stahovich, Kyle Martens, and Drew Butler. Allen can boom kickoffs too. Allen led the nation with 39 punts downed inside the 20 and 22 punts downed inside the 10. How many has Jones put inside the 20? 28 in 16 games. Allen put 39 punts inside the 20 in fewer games. Jones also averaged almost 5 yards per punt less than Allen. Oh, and Allen's longest punt of the year:72 yards.

5.Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia, 6'6, 350lbs
I am not sure why Geathers opted for the draft. With Jenkins gone he would be the starting NT for sure. Well, his loss is the Texans gain. Geathers is a big solid, hard to move NT. He has some athleticism and is not just a big tub of goo. He had 37 tackles, five tackles for a loss, a sack and a blocked kick in 2012. He was the team's defensive Spring MVP. Considering the players on that defense, its quite an accomplishment. He will likely play on First and second down where teams are more apt to try to run the ball. They will soon be in 3rd and long if they try to run against this behemouth!

6. Braden Wilson, FB, Kansas State, 6'4, 254lbs, 4.81
Old School. Wilson is an old school type of FB. A very strong lead blocker, He would instantly improve the run game. He also has some decent hands, though K State rarely threw the ball to him. He had five receptions for 34 yards in 2012 and has 17 receptions for 135 yards total in his career. He can work on this as he is creating holes for the RBs. This move allows Casey to move towards a TE spot to better take advantage of his skills.

7.Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State, 6'2, 239lbs, 4.70.
97 tackles, four tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks, three interceptions and three forced fumbles were Mauti's stat line for 2012. He was well on his way to a 2nd or 3rd round grade. Unfortunately he injured his knee. He also tore his right ACL in 2009 and his left ACL in 2011. Yes, he is a gamble, but its the 7th round. If he can stay healthy, you get 2/3 round talent in the 7th. If he doesn't pan out, its only a 7th rounder. No problem!

7. Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin, 6'4, 327lbs, 5.35
I know that he had some off the field issues/academic issues and was kicked off the Tennessee squad. But, he also has a mean streak and has a lot of athletic ability. In 2012 he had 42 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4 sacks and 1 pass broken up. In 2011 at Tennessee he had 28 tackles, 6.5 tackles for a loss, 1 sack, and one forced/recovered fumble. In 2010 he had 17 tackles with 3.5 tackles for a loss and 1 forced fumble. He has certainly gotten better every year. He is a massive NT with good athletic ability. He is not ready to play in the NFL, but with good coaching, and a good organization, he would be a great project. I think he could become a great rotational player. Imagine a rotation of Geathers and Hughes!

UDFA targets:
Here is a preliminary list of the UDFAs I would look into. Obviously there will be 5th/6th/7th rounders who fall into the UDFA group. As of right now, these are the players who may be available after the draft. If they are available, I would like to grab as many as I could. In the Doppelverse, I grab them all!

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State , 5'11, 215lbs, 4.46: off the field issues caused his stock to drop. Could be a great pickup.

Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico, 6'6, 250lbs, 4.65, younger brother of Brooks Reed. New Mexico struggled to pass and thus his numbers are low. Could be a very good value pick as a developmental big size Gronk type of TE.

James Wilson, OG, Florida, 6'3, 315lbs, 5.07: inconsistent. played well against LSU and struggled against Georgia. good depth potential.

Omar Hunter, DE, Florida, 6'2, 290lbs, 4.93. Solid, unspectacular. Could use better DL coaching and may end up as a depth player.

Kenny Tate, OLB, Maryland, 6'4, 230lbs, 4.71. Played a tweaner S/LB position. I would look to convert him into a ILB due to his coverage and tacking abilities.

Greg Reid, CB, Valdosta State, 5'8, 185lbs, 4.43. Projects as a punt/kick returner special teams player, and backup nickle corner.

Vaughn Telemaque, S, Miami, 6'2, 211, 4.59. Plus size, but raw.Needs some coaching. Has the size and speed to be a very good special teams player. Has the potential to be a solid depth player.

Denard Robinson, ATH, Michigan, 6’1, 193, 4.55. potential playmaker with the ball in his hand. good for bubble screens…throw a short pass his way and watch him break it... Maybe he could be used in a wildcat/pistol/spread package where he takes the direct snap and either pitches it to Foster or runs it himself. Maybe he would be a dynamic kick or punt returner. Who knows? Could be fun it nothing else.

Jordan Rodgers, QB, Vanderbilt, 6'1, 205lbs. Younger brother of Aaron Rogers. Not as polished. Needs time to develop and could become a nice backup/spot starter.

:popcorn:

Just got back on MB & appreciate work you put in. I like Jones but he will not start over Newton so I could not mock him there. I do not see Woods after middle of second so I'd rather go with a WR in first that could start WR2, either T Williams or Deandre Hopkins.

I do like Trevardo but when I mocked him his height became an issue for others. He is closer to 6'1 but fast. Due to needs as I see them, I'd prefer to draft OLB after third round.

SW H-TOWN 01-21-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2113894)
Hello all. Thanks for reading. This is Doppelmock: Version 4.0. In addition to adding a mock, I also identified some potentially interesting UDFA targets. I expect some of these picks will be somewhat controversial, so let me have it!

1. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama, 6'5, 311lbs, 5.10
I listed Jones as OL because he can play all 5 spots. In 2009 he started 14 games as a Guard. As a guard he was a big reason for Mark Ingram winning the Heisman. In 2010, Jones stayed at OG and became an All-SEC selection. In 2011, he was moved to LT and did an excellent job in pass protection and run blocking. In 2012, he was moved to Center and once again, Jones delivered. He dominated 1st round DT Sheldon Richardson and 350lb NT Kwame Geathers. I think Jones could play anywhere on the line. At the moment, only 2 spots are definitely taken: LT and C. Jones could be an upgrade at any of the three spots. Based on what I have seen, in the short term, I would start him at RT as I think he is better than Newton. As the needs of the OL change, he can be moved around in order to give the team the best possible 5 OL. Nic Saban favorably compared Jones to Bruce Matthews. Very high respect there. If he is there at #27, I'd take him.

2. Robert Woods, WR, University of Southern California, 6'1, 180lbs, 4.40
Its amazing what can happen in a year. A year ago people were talking about Woods as a potential top 10 player. Now he has fallen to maybe the #10 Wr. Previously, Texan fans were wondering if they should trade up in the 2013 draft to get him. Fast forward a year and now he has dropped all the way to the second round. His loss is the Texans gain. Despite a nagging ankle injury, He will be ready to go once camp arrives. Woods' game is that of explosion and getting behind DBs. As a result he struggled due to his ankle injury. However, a fully healed Woods would be explosive. He has great hands, runs good routes, and is a threat to score anytime he gets the ball. He would start immediately as a #2 receiver opposite AJ. He has the talent to be a legit #1 receiver down the line.

3. Trevardo WIlliams, OLB, Connecticut, 6'2, 233lbs, 4.68
Under the radar potentially sleeper OLB prospect. He had very nice numbers in 2012: He had 42 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble. In 2011 he had 12.5 sacks, 15 tackles for a loss, 43 tackles and 2 forced fumbles. He has gotten better every year. and would be a great addition to the Phillips OLB group.

3. Isaiah Johnson, S, Georgia Tech, 6'2, 208, 4.57
Georgia Tech stinks, but Johnson is awesome. In 2012 he had 87 tackles, 1 sack, 1 interception and 4.5 tackles for a loss. In 2011 he has 78 tackles, three interceptions, three tackles for a loss, one sack and three passes broken up. In 2010 he had 46 tackles and three tackles for a loss, one interception, one forced fumble and one sack. Keep in mind his 2010 numbers were that of a true freshman. He has good size, speed, tackling ability, and reasonably good hands. In the Texans Defense, he could start out as a monster special teams player and provide ridiculously good depth/future starter capability.

4.Matt Scott, QB, Arizona, 6'3, 196lbs, 4.77
I know this is not the QB a lot of people want. However, let's face facts, Schaub is coming back next year. I say before you take a potential franchise QB, build the OL and give him a weapon. So, is Scott a franchise QB? probably not. But I think he has more ability than Yates or Keenum. He is a good sized QB, who could put on some weight. He was a resonbly good passer in 2012 and a passer completion of 60%. He threw for 3,620 yards with a 27/14 TD/INT ratio. He also ran for 632 yards and 6 touchdowns. The ability to move is important to the Kubioffense. More importantly a mobile QB may be able to avoid sacks. Finally, having running ability brings a whole new wrinkle to the playaction. A fake handoff could now also mean the QB running in the opposite way for a nice chunk of yards. He played as Foles' backup last year and has a lot of potential as a plus backup. I think he is better short and longterm than TJ Yates or Case Keenum and would make a fine backup. In the 2014 draft, the Texans can go after their next starter.

5 Ryan Allen, P, Louisiana Tech, 6'2, 215lbs.
In the biggest game of the season, Jones shanked an important punt. I have seen a few of them like that this season. Allen won't shank important punts and can change field position. He has averaged 48 yards per punt. Last year he averaged 46.12. Here is the reason I take him: he won the 2011 Ray Guy award the last two years. He has beaten out really good punters like Bryan Anger, Brad Wing, Quin Sharp, Brian Stahovich, Kyle Martens, and Drew Butler. Allen can boom kickoffs too. Allen led the nation with 39 punts downed inside the 20 and 22 punts downed inside the 10. How many has Jones put inside the 20? 28 in 16 games. Allen put 39 punts inside the 20 in fewer games. Jones also averaged almost 5 yards per punt less than Allen. Oh, and Allen's longest punt of the year:72 yards.

5.Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia, 6'6, 350lbs
I am not sure why Geathers opted for the draft. With Jenkins gone he would be the starting NT for sure. Well, his loss is the Texans gain. Geathers is a big solid, hard to move NT. He has some athleticism and is not just a big tub of goo. He had 37 tackles, five tackles for a loss, a sack and a blocked kick in 2012. He was the team's defensive Spring MVP. Considering the players on that defense, its quite an accomplishment. He will likely play on First and second down where teams are more apt to try to run the ball. They will soon be in 3rd and long if they try to run against this behemouth!

6. Braden Wilson, FB, Kansas State, 6'4, 254lbs, 4.81
Old School. Wilson is an old school type of FB. A very strong lead blocker, He would instantly improve the run game. He also has some decent hands, though K State rarely threw the ball to him. He had five receptions for 34 yards in 2012 and has 17 receptions for 135 yards total in his career. He can work on this as he is creating holes for the RBs. This move allows Casey to move towards a TE spot to better take advantage of his skills.

7.Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State, 6'2, 239lbs, 4.70.
97 tackles, four tackles for a loss, 2.5 sacks, three interceptions and three forced fumbles were Mauti's stat line for 2012. He was well on his way to a 2nd or 3rd round grade. Unfortunately he injured his knee. He also tore his right ACL in 2009 and his left ACL in 2011. Yes, he is a gamble, but its the 7th round. If he can stay healthy, you get 2/3 round talent in the 7th. If he doesn't pan out, its only a 7th rounder. No problem!

7. Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin, 6'4, 327lbs, 5.35
I know that he had some off the field issues/academic issues and was kicked off the Tennessee squad. But, he also has a mean streak and has a lot of athletic ability. In 2012 he had 42 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4 sacks and 1 pass broken up. In 2011 at Tennessee he had 28 tackles, 6.5 tackles for a loss, 1 sack, and one forced/recovered fumble. In 2010 he had 17 tackles with 3.5 tackles for a loss and 1 forced fumble. He has certainly gotten better every year. He is a massive NT with good athletic ability. He is not ready to play in the NFL, but with good coaching, and a good organization, he would be a great project. I think he could become a great rotational player. Imagine a rotation of Geathers and Hughes!

UDFA targets:
Here is a preliminary list of the UDFAs I would look into. Obviously there will be 5th/6th/7th rounders who fall into the UDFA group. As of right now, these are the players who may be available after the draft. If they are available, I would like to grab as many as I could. In the Doppelverse, I grab them all!

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State , 5'11, 215lbs, 4.46: off the field issues caused his stock to drop. Could be a great pickup.

Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico, 6'6, 250lbs, 4.65, younger brother of Brooks Reed. New Mexico struggled to pass and thus his numbers are low. Could be a very good value pick as a developmental big size Gronk type of TE.

James Wilson, OG, Florida, 6'3, 315lbs, 5.07: inconsistent. played well against LSU and struggled against Georgia. good depth potential.

Omar Hunter, DE, Florida, 6'2, 290lbs, 4.93. Solid, unspectacular. Could use better DL coaching and may end up as a depth player.

Kenny Tate, OLB, Maryland, 6'4, 230lbs, 4.71. Played a tweaner S/LB position. I would look to convert him into a ILB due to his coverage and tacking abilities.

Greg Reid, CB, Valdosta State, 5'8, 185lbs, 4.43. Projects as a punt/kick returner special teams player, and backup nickle corner.

Vaughn Telemaque, S, Miami, 6'2, 211, 4.59. Plus size, but raw.Needs some coaching. Has the size and speed to be a very good special teams player. Has the potential to be a solid depth player.

Denard Robinson, ATH, Michigan, 6’1, 193, 4.55. potential playmaker with the ball in his hand. good for bubble screens…throw a short pass his way and watch him break it... Maybe he could be used in a wildcat/pistol/spread package where he takes the direct snap and either pitches it to Foster or runs it himself. Maybe he would be a dynamic kick or punt returner. Who knows? Could be fun it nothing else.

Jordan Rodgers, QB, Vanderbilt, 6'1, 205lbs. Younger brother of Aaron Rogers. Not as polished. Needs time to develop and could become a nice backup/spot starter.

:popcorn:

I like your 3rd (both) and 4th round picks a lot. I just don't think that the Texans will wait until the last round to draft an ILB. Also, I don't see Geathers as being a fit for our system. Like the Denard Robinson pick, he gets vertical so quick.

Lucky 01-21-2013 10:35 PM

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This is what makes me leary about Barrett Jones.

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01/08/2013 - Alabama center Barrett Jones played the BCS championship game with torn ligaments in his left foot and needs surgery. The two-time All-American and the leader of the Crimson Tide's dominant offensive line was injured in the Southeastern Conference championship against Georgia. He didn't practice again until the day before Alabama left Tuscaloosa to come to south Florida. When the team arrived, he came off the plane wearing a protective boot on his injured foot. Jones told reporters after the game his injury was similar to the one that put Houston Texas quarterback Matt Schaub out of several games last season.
I don't know how he could have played on a lisfranc. He's going to get a very long look in the combine examination room.

I also think the Bruce Matthews comparison is a little overblown. Yes, Jones is versatile, like Matthews. But, Bruce was one of the more athletic linemen to play the game. Jones isn't in that league as an athlete.

Just a note to fellow posters: It is unnecessary to quote an entire post. Especially one as long as Doppelganger's OP. It makes these threads much more difficult to read. Just quote what is relative to what you want to discuss.

Rey 01-21-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppelganger (Post 2113952)
Why do you not care for drafting 2 NTs? My thought process was that Geathers had the potential to be a good run stopper/clogger. He would be able to take up multiple men in order to give Watt the other DE and the OLBs an opportunity for free hits on the QB or rushed QB throws. Hughes is a more athletic NT who would be able to rotate in and keep the NT spot fresh. Hughes also has a bit of a mean streak and can put some pressure on the QB. Of course as a 7th, he is a developmental player.

Since you don't like the 2 NT selections, who would you replace them with?

Earl will likely be here and I don't see us carrying three nts. But it's a seventh round pick so whatever.

AJ-80 01-21-2013 10:45 PM

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I think Woods will have a huge combine/pro-day and get back in late 1st round. I like Jones, but I'm not sure that is our biggest need right now. I see us taking a OL in 3-4 round to develop. Between Woods, T. Williams, and others, I feel like we take a WR in 1st round. But thats been the tone every year and it doesn't seem to happen. Great mock overall. I really like Wilson at FB. We need a bull for Foster to run behind.

beerlover 01-21-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ-80 (Post 2114289)
I think Woods will have a huge combine/pro-day and get back in late 1st round. I like Jones, but I'm not sure that is our biggest need right now. I see us taking a OL in 3-4 round to develop. Between Woods, T. Williams, and others, I feel like we take a WR in 1st round. But thats been the tone every year and it doesn't seem to happen. Great mock overall. I really like Wilson at FB. We need a bull for Foster to run behind.

Fortunately for the Texans this is a deep WR class. No clear cut #1 (maybe Hopkins) but lots of depth all around & potential to develop maybe even surprise.

Doppelganger 01-22-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2114027)
Fine work as usual although I find your timing a little unusual which probably says more in response to the Texans needs above all else.

I'm going to disagree with your #1 selection, not because he's not in discussion for BPA (I don't disagree with that) but feel strongly that Texans got a similar talent in the 4th rd. last year in Ben Jones.

Your not alone that feel Woods falls out of the first rd. but all the way til end of 2nd? He's too polished, very low risk & will impress @ combine/pro day. Great pick but would project late 1st early 2nd.

I like both Rutgers & Conneticut defensive players. This could be a very solid pick late 3rd.

Johnson is another solid pick. Could fit right in a depleted (via fa) revamped secondary with better ball skills.

Scott not so much a fan of but not a terrible pick. Would give him a shot to earn roster spot but that isn't saying much or what Joe FAN wants to hear which is why Texans need to address the future now & use Schaub to mentor the kid.

Rest of your picks I have as we'll so steller job of course. All would have a chance to make the roster & add much needed depth. A punter is a nessecary evil @ this point as well kick returner. Special teams must improve drastically.

BL :wesmantexanfan:

Thanks! I have been working on it since the Texans lost to the Patriots. I wanted to put it out before the Senior Bowl, just in case...

Ben Jones is a good player and I think he will be a quality OG/C for the team. However, he cannot play OT and still needs some work. Jones, is a better prospect. A legit starter at 5 positions and has the potential to be very good if given the time to really sit in one spot.

Hard to project with Woods. After the big two of Allen and Williams there is a group of WRs who I like: Hopkins, Hunter, Patterson, Rogers, Hamilton, and Woods. I think one of the 6 should be there. If none are there, that would mean 8 receivers are taken before our second pick. Seems tough to project all 8 gone. I just picked Woods, but I would take any of those 6.

Scott to me has a ton of upside that simply does not exist on this team. For however long Kubiack sticks around, one thing seems to be clear, the days of the immovable statue QB are pretty much done. QBs that win in this league have to be able to move. Either be a Brady and be able to elude the pass rush or be an RGIII and be able to make plays with your feet as well. QBs like Schaub who are pretty much pocket passers with little mobility really don't cut it anymore. Unfortunately, Yates has a very similar skill set. He is more mobile than Schaub, but that is not saying much. He is not going to make many plays on the ground. Scott to me is the kind of QB to develop. He can make plays on the ground and has a good strong arm. Developmentally I see him at worst being as good as Yates, but at best he could become a solid NFL QB/supersub. Scott brings a dimension this team simply does not have and I think he is too good to pass up in this scenario.

Thanks for the feedback!

Doppelganger 01-22-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by badboy (Post 2114058)
Just got back on MB & appreciate work you put in. I like Jones but he will not start over Newton so I could not mock him there. I do not see Woods after middle of second so I'd rather go with a WR in first that could start WR2, either T Williams or Deandre Hopkins.

I do like Trevardo but when I mocked him his height became an issue for others. He is closer to 6'1 but fast. Due to needs as I see them, I'd prefer to draft OLB after third round.

I think Jones is a superior player to Newton. In the New England game, I saw Newton struggling against the pass rush. I saw several plays where he lunged and the DL player got around him causing Schaub to throw the ball away. Jones could do a better job than that and has against top level DL prospects.

Woods is hard to predict. There are a very good group of 8 receivers who I would take in the first 2 rounds. I think at least one of them will be there for the Texans. Not sure who yet, but surely one of them will fall. I just picked Woods.

In the third round, taking talent is important. Trevardo has talent. Every year talented players drop simply because they don't have the right size. We can take Travardo and let others take less talented bigger players :)


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