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AJ-80 01-18-2013 12:23 AM

Manti Te'o
 
How far will he fall?

If you were Rick Smith what would do if he dropped to you? Take him regardless of his performance in the NCG? Regardless of all this mess he's involved in right now?

WolverineFan 01-18-2013 12:29 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
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Originally Posted by AJ-80 (Post 2111633)
How far will he fall?

If you were Rick Smith what would do if he dropped to you? Take him regardless of his performance in the NCG? Regardless of all this mess he's involved in right now?

I think he's been overrated all year. He only won all those awards because of the girlfriend story and the media sympathy. There were numerous LB's with better numbers who didn't even get considered for those awards. It was a farce that he was even invited to the Heisman ceremony. There have been much better defensive performances over the years than his. All of his hype stems from this story about his girlfriend.

That said, I can't comment on his draftability unless I got to see him at the combine, pro day, workouts, etc. His interview process will be crucial as well. Too many factors right now, but to answer OP I would lean toward only drafting him in rounds 3-4 if he free falls.

Wolf6151 01-18-2013 01:03 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
If I'm the GM, I don't draft him at all. He's either the biggest idiot or biggest liar in college football and I don't want either on my team. There are other guys who I like that I'd take instead in later rounds, AJ Klein, Kiko Alonso, Kevin Reddick, etc... As for the real NFL, they have short memories and will draft him based on skill level. I'm thinking in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Rey 01-18-2013 07:19 AM

I didn't want Teo BEFORE this stuff came out.

I wasn't a fan of his BEFORE the nc game.

That said, if he falls to the third round or later you have to at least consider it.

But I'm not going to be clamoring for the guy at any point. But coverage wise he'd be an upgrade over what we have.

Corrosion 01-18-2013 08:00 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2111673)
I didn't want Teo BEFORE this stuff came out.

I wasn't a fan of his BEFORE the nc game.

That said, if he falls to the third round or later you have to at least consider it.

But I'm not going to be clamoring for the guy at any point. But coverage wise he'd be an upgrade over what we have.

I'd almost be willing to ditch the ILB all together and plug in a thumper safety with coverage skills in that spot on a regular basis.


Quick , someone go clone Jack Tatum in his prime.

beerlover 01-18-2013 09:09 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Manti dropping to 27 would be a gift. but media circus that would follow may be too much for boys on Kirby? but from evaluation perspective he should be on the Texan short list with razor thin LB position.

I hope another team bites to push another prospect down to #27. I would rather grab a high ceiling WR then address LB with 2nd. :kitten:

Rey 01-18-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Corrosion (Post 2111690)
I'd almost be willing to ditch the ILB all together and plug in a thumper safety with coverage skills in that spot on a regular basis.


Quick , someone go clone Jack Tatum in his prime.

I mentioned last year that Taylor mays might be a good fit for this defense of wade could get creative with him. Better coverage skills than most lb's would have, but bigger and stronger than most safeties.

I thought if we could coach him up he'd be ideal for that joker role that Quinn plays. Which would allow us to leave Quinn back deep.

The safety I like in this draft for that role is lester from bama. Not the physical freak that mays is, but has the size, good athleticism, physical and has good technique.

beerlover 01-18-2013 11:04 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
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Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2111735)
I mentioned last year that Taylor mays might be a good fit for this defense of wade could get creative with him. Better coverage skills than most lb's would have, but bigger and stronger than most safeties.

I thought if we could coach him up he'd be ideal for that joker role that Quinn plays. Which would allow us to leave Quinn back deep.

The safety I like in this draft for that role is lester from bama. Not the physical freak that mays is, but has the size, good athleticism, physical and has good technique.

Why didn't the Texans just keep Pollard then?

Rey 01-18-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by beerlover (Post 2111827)
Why didn't the Texans just keep Pollard then?

I think part of the same reason they traded Demeco.

They aren't going to take a team leader, someone used to always being on the field, and make them into a niche role player.

Better to find someone cheap for that.

Once I saw wade's 3 safety defense I thought that wouldve been a nice role for pollard.

Vinny 01-18-2013 11:25 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
no way they take him in the first round. Dude can't man cover and he isn't a great tackler in space.

Honoring Earl 34 01-18-2013 11:28 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
I think the Jaguars will get Tebow and draft Manti Te'o . This will create the biggest NFL sideshow ever . :overreact:

On a football note , I'd take Minter and Overstreet every time over Manti Te'o .

Playoffs 01-18-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ-80 (Post 2111633)
How far will he fall?

When it's all said and done I don't think it'll materially impact his position. Not about football.

mussop 01-18-2013 11:38 PM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Honoring Earl 34 (Post 2111854)
I think the Jaguars will get Tebow and draft Manti Te'o . This will create the biggest NFL sideshow ever . :overreact:

On a football note , I'd take Minter and Overstreet every time over Manti Te'o .

Overstreet is the best ILB in this draft. I agree I would rank Te'o 3rd.

Wolf6151 01-19-2013 01:40 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mussop (Post 2112243)
Overstreet is the best ILB in this draft. I agree I would rank Te'o 3rd.

Who's Overstreet? Are yall thinking of Ogletree from Georgia? He's my #1 ILB.

mussop 01-19-2013 02:55 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf6151 (Post 2112265)
Who's Overstreet? Are yall thinking of Ogletree from Georgia? He's my #1 ILB.

Yes I meant Ogletree. :headhurts:

HJam72 01-19-2013 07:38 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
I hear Overthetrees is good.

dc_txtech 01-19-2013 10:07 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HJam72 (Post 2112295)
I hear Overthetrees is good.

I've been clamoring for Oventrees since he was a freshman!

steelbtexan 01-19-2013 10:37 AM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rey (Post 2111673)
I didn't want Teo BEFORE this stuff came out.

I wasn't a fan of his BEFORE the nc game.

That said, if he falls to the third round or later you have to at least consider it.

But I'm not going to be clamoring for the guy at any point. But coverage wise he'd be an upgrade over what we have.

^^^^
This

But he is not physical enough to play next to Cushing in a 3-4.

Teo would best be used as a WLB in a 4-3 defense. IMHO

I would take him in the 3rd rd if I was Wade.

beerlover 01-19-2013 01:47 PM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Wade would run to the podium (would be quite the sight) selecting Manti Te'o w/27th overall pick. How anyone can say he doesn't fit inside or next to player like Cushing is inexplicable :overreact:

Vinny 01-19-2013 02:15 PM

Re: Manti Te'o
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan (Post 2112340)
^^^^
This

But he is not physical enough to play next to Cushing in a 3-4.

Teo would best be used as a WLB in a 4-3 defense. IMHO

I would take him in the 3rd rd if I was Wade.

he's more of a Scam linebacker than a Will linebacker...he looks too slow to play the weakside.


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