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Wolf 01-13-2013 06:37 AM

How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
Interesting read. I didn't know whether NFL section was the place or NSZ

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Thirteen years ago, Ray Lewis was in the back of a limousine speeding down an Atlanta street, leaving the chaos of what would become a notorious murder scene.
Today, Ray Lewis prepares to play his final minutes in the NFL as one of the most celebrated and iconic players in league history.
These are two sets of indisputable facts, facts that don't seem to connect in any meaningful way. To accept one set, you have to virtually ignore the other. It just doesn't make sense, no matter which angle you take. How does a man implicated in a double homicide end up receiving a congratulatory bear hug from the NFL commissioner in front of thousands of fans wearing his No. 52 jersey? From the other direction: How could a man who's done so much for his team and his community still be held accountable for a tragedy for which he was absolved?
From any angle, though, this question looms over the entire life and career of Ray Lewis: How on earth did he get here from there?





http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ho...201947666.html

TexanExile 01-13-2013 06:52 AM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
The USA Today piece was also interesting, and a bit more fact-laden, except for this rather jarring comment from a relative of one dead victim:

Cindy Lollar-Owens, Richard Lollar's aunt, says Lewis' pending retirement prompted her Thursday to visit the funeral home, "because that's where my nephew retired."

Ouch. That one hit home.

rmartin65 01-13-2013 09:27 AM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
Because he is a great player and charismatic. And because it was not proven that Ray-Ray did anything.

It sucks, but them's the breaks.

TexanExile 01-13-2013 11:17 AM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
I don't find him charismatic. I find him to be an awesome player with one of the most narcissistic, look-at-me, can't-pass-up-a-microphone personalities I can think of in modern sports. He just cannot shut up.

At a certain point it stops looking like passion and looks more like somebody trying a little too hard to compensate for something on their conscience. Wonder what that might be, exactly?

Texecutioner 01-13-2013 11:51 AM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by TexanExile (Post 2105179)
I don't find him charismatic. I find him to be an awesome player with one of the most narcissistic, look-at-me, can't-pass-up-a-microphone personalities I can think of in modern sports. He just cannot shut up.

At a certain point it stops looking like passion and looks more like somebody trying a little too hard to compensate for something on their conscience. Wonder what that might be, exactly?

Narcissistic? We talking about the same guy??

All I see is a guy that the media goes after all of the time because they knows that he's the leader of that organization and the spokes person. Anyone in that organization mad over that? You see a ton of Ravens players getting into trouble and making an embarrassment of themselves? Nope. Ray's leadership over there has been unquestionably positive on that entire organization. The guy is usually preaching about positivity, god, or giving inspirational speeches about his team. You've got to be a complete hater to bash the guy for all of that.

LikeMike 01-13-2013 01:28 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
I really like him as a player - but man this whole thing sucks. Nobody but a collected few who were there really knows what happened, but it sure feels like a rich man in the spotlight could just use his name and money to get out of that mess - for which others would have to go to prison for many years and lose their job. Cheering for such a man is hard to stomach if you ask me...

MEGA SWATT 01-13-2013 01:31 PM

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PapaL 01-13-2013 01:34 PM

Difference between Mike Vick and Ray Lewis? Lewis had better friends. That's why he didn't go to jail. Friends took the heat, he made the money, and paid them off behind the scenes.

Think what you want but Ray is an NFL icon.

Pantherstang84 01-13-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Texecutioner (Post 2105211)
Narcissistic? We talking about the same guy??

All I see is a guy that the media goes after all of the time because they knows that he's the leader of that organization and the spokes person. Anyone in that organization mad over that? You see a ton of Ravens players getting into trouble and making an embarrassment of themselves? Nope. Ray's leadership over there has been unquestionably positive on that entire organization. The guy is usually preaching about positivity, god, or giving inspirational speeches about his team. You've got to be a complete hater to bash the guy for all of that.

Ok I'm a hater. Is that similar to a Kubiak hater?

2012Champs 01-13-2013 02:17 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
Public opinion is a *****. Those Duke kids will never live down that rape case either

chicagotexan2 01-13-2013 02:20 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by TexanExile (Post 2105179)
I don't find him charismatic. I find him to be an awesome player with one of the most narcissistic, look-at-me, can't-pass-up-a-microphone personalities I can think of in modern sports. He just cannot shut up.

At a certain point it stops looking like passion and looks more like somebody trying a little too hard to compensate for something on their conscience. Wonder what that might be, exactly?

Personally I find his ra ra inspiration to be more BS than anything else. Being a great player doesn't undo what you did or were a part of. He was involved in the murders of two men. Being a hall of famer, morivational speaker and rediculous pre game ballerina doesn't blind me what he did. Innocent men don't settle out of court in my eyes.

StarStruck 01-13-2013 02:41 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by chicagotexan2 (Post 2105365)
Innocent men don't settle out of court in my eyes.

I repectfully disagree. A jury of your peers relying of facts isn't a gimmie.

Showtime100 01-13-2013 02:43 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanExile (Post 2105179)
I don't find him charismatic. I find him to be an awesome player with one of the most narcissistic, look-at-me, can't-pass-up-a-microphone personalities I can think of in modern sports. He just cannot shut up.

At a certain point it stops looking like passion and looks more like somebody trying a little too hard to compensate for something on their conscience. Wonder what that might be, exactly?

I'm in this camp. Agree completely.

2012Champs 01-13-2013 02:48 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by chicagotexan2 (Post 2105365)
Personally I find his ra ra inspiration to be more BS than anything else. Being a great player doesn't undo what you did or were a part of. He was involved in the murders of two men. Being a hall of famer, morivational speaker and rediculous pre game ballerina doesn't blind me what he did. Innocent men don't settle out of court in my eyes.


Innocent people settle all the damn time. It often times come down to cost vs potential risk. If you dont understand this then you clearly don't understand how the world works

MEGA SWATT 01-13-2013 02:58 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by Showtime100 (Post 2105400)
I'm in this camp. Agree completely.

me too........


when he walks by a camera or a microphone...I'm like:


:overreact:

Pollardized 01-13-2013 03:00 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
"How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?" Because through God's grace and mercy we are redeemed. Ray Lewis is a Christian, and God has great things instore for believers.

MEGA SWATT 01-13-2013 03:14 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by Pollardized (Post 2105421)
"How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?" Because through God's grace and mercy we are redeemed. Ray Lewis is a Christian, and God has great things instore for believers.

Not to start a religious debate, but don't underestimate money and lawyers.

If it weren't for that (if he were a regular Joe), he'd be practicing his faith in Prison.

Pollardized 01-13-2013 03:34 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by MEGA SWATT (Post 2105439)
Not to start a religious debate, but don't underestimate money and lawyers.

If it weren't for that (if he were a regular Joe), he'd be practicing his faith in Prison.

Jeff Skilling, Andrew Fastow, and some others who once called Enron home would disagree with you.

MEGA SWATT 01-13-2013 03:50 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
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Originally Posted by Pollardized (Post 2105461)
Jeff Skilling, Andrew Fastow, and some others who once called Enron home would disagree with you.


true:boogie::worldpeace::boogie:



msr

rmartin65 01-13-2013 09:39 PM

Re: How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pollardized (Post 2105421)
"How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?" Because through God's grace and mercy we are redeemed. Ray Lewis is a Christian, and God has great things instore for believers.

So murder is ok... if you are a Christian?

Sounds good.


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